Value of: Moritz Seider Contract
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WaW
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Alot has changed since 2011. Back then, players signing the 8 year deals off their rookie deals wasn't prevalent like it is today.
Poppy Whoa Sonnet
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Detroit will do whatever they can to avoid a bridge, even going to 8.75m x 8 I think and he'll sign that.
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If you are Seider agent. You are looking at Nurse and Jones contracts. 2 other highly regarder young dman who got paid.
Yzerman may not like it and bridge him, but 1000% sure that's what his agent is aiming at
Yzerman may not like it and bridge him, but 1000% sure that's what his agent is aiming at
that’s a stretch but if I was a Detroit fan I’d be looking for as much term as possible
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Dubas?
Several players have gone from ELC straight into 8 years that aren't Leafs players...
SantosHalper
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Who ever it was, who started the trend. My point was that Yzerman has always signed a bridge after ELC, that's the way he operates. How many +5-year deals Yzerman has ever done? 5?
Matt Carle 6 years(2012)
Ryan Callahan 6 years(2014)
Steven Stamkos 8 years(2016)
Ryan McDonagh 7 years(2018)
Dylan Larkin 8 years(2023)
Rarely Yzerman signs anyone with max years.
FO will want long term, Seider will want bridge because everyone knows how high cap is going, FO will have to make it worth it for Seider to go long term.
I am curious to see how Yzerman handles and sets the upper limits of the cap for the teams core. I think in the end Yzerman and Seider agree to 8x8.5mm. Not quite best D-man in league level, and not quite Larkin level, helping set the limit for future players on the wings going forward.
I am curious to see how Yzerman handles and sets the upper limits of the cap for the teams core. I think in the end Yzerman and Seider agree to 8x8.5mm. Not quite best D-man in league level, and not quite Larkin level, helping set the limit for future players on the wings going forward.
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I was thinking the Ekblad contract would be comparable: in 2016, he received what would be ten percent of the cap the first season of the contract (7.5/75). Both players were big RD with offensive talent and won the Calder. Seider has put up better raw numbers but the performances are similar adjusting for scoring.
I guess this mean a contract of about 8.4M for 8 years
I guess this mean a contract of about 8.4M for 8 years
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Jones and Nurse got paid premiums by bad management teams. Those were also their 3rd contracts, not 2nd.
Makar and Heiskanen deals will be more similar. 2nd contracts.
Strange, but it always seems that these big contracts mark the closing of a team's window to compete.
Even though they have lots of cap space, the UFA market is very poor.
Even though they have many draft picks, the impact these players will have on their roster is likely years away.
The age demographic of the team doesn't make much sense unless they are planning a rebuild with an ageing Larkin at the helm.
In Detroit's case, they seemed to close their window each time before opening it.
Even though they have lots of cap space, the UFA market is very poor.
Even though they have many draft picks, the impact these players will have on their roster is likely years away.
The age demographic of the team doesn't make much sense unless they are planning a rebuild with an ageing Larkin at the helm.
In Detroit's case, they seemed to close their window each time before opening it.
TheImpatientPanther
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6 years x 8.25 mil and then he signs big time deal at 28 years old.
Not sure he wants to lock into 8 years when cap will be going up.
Yzerman would be buying 3 UFA years and that gives him enough time to keep building.
If 8 yr, I'd expect around $9.5 million? In line with the other top tier D prospects who got paid big time off their ELCs.
Not sure he wants to lock into 8 years when cap will be going up.
Yzerman would be buying 3 UFA years and that gives him enough time to keep building.
If 8 yr, I'd expect around $9.5 million? In line with the other top tier D prospects who got paid big time off their ELCs.
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Depends if his next season is like this 21-22 or 22-23. If last season was a sophomore slump, then he will be getting 8 or more. If next season is more like 22-23 he will be getting 5-6.
His 22-23 season turned around as soon as they moved Chiarot away from him.
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I disagree, Chiarot is a blackhole, no question, but Mo's play was unspectacular outside of a stretch before the ASG. By the TDL he was back to being not as good as he was the year prior. Basically a stretch between January 1 and February 15th he was looking like rookie Mo. The rest of the season wasn't nearly as good.
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True, they all signed for 5-6 years at the some money as other teams players would sign for 8 years. Dubie was so awesome.
Seider, tough to say does he go for the bridge. Earnings (and security) wise it's likely wiser to go long-term immediately if you're getting like 8x$8M.
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TOO MUCH. He isn't worth that much right now, and doesn't have the leverage for such a deal. This is an unnecessary waste of cap space. 8X8 at this point is more than fair.
