Morgan Rielly

[crump]

ya..where did this guy go? Obviously injured. just be patient.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

ya..where did this guy go? Oviously injured. just be patient.

Thats what he can do healthy. We know now he has nagging pain lower body injury now at least. Imagine that element back as the season winds down . Hopefully he feels 100% as the second half the season rolls out here. We like that player alot ha

 

[The Apologist]

ya..where did this guy go? Oviously injured. just be patient.

Dude is like 25. Clearly lost a step. Washed up. Time to move on.





/S

 

[Maple Leaf]

Dude is like 25. Clearly lost a step. Washed up. Time to move on.





/S

Who is his defence partner
None

 

[moon111]

I swear if someone just told him to take shots at the lower half of the net he'd be a superstar. He aims for top corner EVERY time and misses and rings it off the glass.

Are you sure he's aiming for the top corner?

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Beaninfritz]

"dealing with an injury that sidelines you from participating for months on end"
"get back into it"
"wonder why he's a step behind"
Nylander wasn't injured last season, but a lack of participation takes its toll.
I guess MLSE should trade Rielly because of, reasons, stuff, and things.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I would trade anyone except clufford

 

[Ryan Michaels]

how is there no thread on this guy? Best dman last year, terrible every game this year. Hurt? Ive never seen anything like it. WTH?

This guy gets the biggest free ride here out of anyone on the team. People were ready to trade Auston ****ing Matthews for being porous defensively(an aspect of his game he's become excellent at now as a forward at the age of 22), Rielly plays the position and sucks defensively and catches the least flack. I do give him a break for being injured but he's always been flawed.

Similarly, John Tavares was underwhelming for the vast majority of the season and that was okay because he just had a kid...WHAT?

To top all of this off whenever posters criticize the team in broad strokes its always the "lazy greedy young kids" which is total BS because Matthews was phenomenal, Nylander was very good and Marner, who's game I didn't much care for, was still pacing about 100 points. If people are honest with themselves Rielly going from a Norris candidate(which was never going to be the norm) to an absolute stiff was the biggest non-Babcock issue this year. Followed by Tavares not playing like the elite superstar he's paid to be.

Posters here hate pinning the goat horns on veteran Canadian players tho, hence the lack of thread.

 

[darrylsittler27]

This thread is about Reilly. He played injured and missed Hainsey. He is now healthy. We had quite a few underperforming last year.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

This guy gets the biggest free ride here out of anyone on the team. People were ready to trade Auston ****ing Matthews for being porous defensively(an aspect of his game he's become excellent at now as a forward at the age of 22), Rielly plays the position and sucks defensively and catches the least flack. I do give him a break for being injured but he's always been flawed.

Similarly, John Tavares was underwhelming for the vast majority of the season and that was okay because he just had a kid...WHAT?

To top all of this off whenever posters criticize the team in broad strokes its always the "lazy greedy young kids" which is total BS because Matthews was phenomenal, Nylander was very good and Marner, who's game I didn't much care for, was still pacing about 100 points. If people are honest with themselves Rielly going from a Norris candidate(which was never going to be the norm) to an absolute stiff was the biggest non-Babcock issue this year. Followed by Tavares not playing like the elite superstar he's paid to be.

Posters here hate pinning the goat horns on veteran Canadian players tho, hence the lack of thread.

You should read Assessing which NHL defencemen have the best transition game - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Ryan Michaels]

You should read Assessing which NHL defencemen have the best transition game - Sportsnet.ca

That's a surprising read but at the end of the day it acknowledges Rielly's struggles without the puck. I see it's a category Karlsson usually dominates as well who was routinely shredded for his defensive ability despite much better production. It was overall an ugly year for Rielly to pretend otherwise is a disservice to the player he can be. Zone exits are important obviously but that's not the be all end all of evaluation.

Rielly is a very good player. A #1 dman. But not the top 10 in the league all world talent he is treated and he has holes defensively which he rarely gets as much abuse for as our forwards.

 

[al secord]

Wait. We wanted to trade Auston Matthews?

 

[Wafflewhipper]

That's a surprising read but at the end of the day it acknowledges Rielly's struggles without the puck. I see it's a category Karlsson usually dominates as well who was routinely shredded for his defensive ability despite much better production. It was overall an ugly year for Rielly to pretend otherwise is a disservice to the player he can be. Zone exits are important obviously but that's not the be all end all of evaluation.

Rielly is a very good player. A #1 dman. But not the top 10 in the league all world talent he is treated and he has holes defensively which he rarely gets as much abuse for as our forwards.

He looked the part of a player his way through games. Everyone was saying he must be injured. We were all right. It effected every part of his game. Great thing is it didn’t effect him mentally as shown by his great transition smartness. Physically, he was half the player. Just depended on how uncomfortable he was from game to game is my guess as to why all the fluctuations were there in his quality of play. We still don’t know exactly what injuries he was dealing with. They must have been manageable but he was not himself for sure bro. Stay healthy leafer

 

[deletethis]

I'm predicting that he'll get traded this off season. LHD are easier to source than RHD. I'm predicting he'll be moved while a significant RHD will be joining the organization in the summer.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Ryan Michaels]

Wait. We wanted to trade Auston Matthews?

This board in a nutshell, asinine take after asinine take and then we pretend they never occurred...

I think trading one of the 'Big M's' is needed to get some depth on the squad as it frees up salary cap space or you get 3 players for the price of one.
I knew signing the trio of Tavs, Marner and Matty was a mistake. Although, they may have just tuned out the coach and will go St.Louis blues on the league once he is gone.

Obviously. As good as matthews is this year hes no mcdavid/draisaitl/MacKinnon and cant carry a team nearly all by himself.

And marner is amazing but he right now is not as good as Matthews let alone the level above. I'd trade both for the Bruins 1st line

one of AM/MM/WN have to go, I didn't include JT because I'm sure he's got a no movement clause.

I'd trade Matthews and Nylander for Matthew Tkachuk and Noah Hanifin. I doubt that Calgary even considers this.

Ottawa can have Marner for Brady Tkachuk and Anders Nilsson.

Flame away.

Both have put themselves ahead of the team, IMHO. Their contracts screams greed when neither have proven anything teamwise.

Was actually thinking the same thing today.

A trade revolving around matthews for seth Jones would make us a more balanced team.

If pressured, I trade the guy that the leafs have shown that they can win most without

Matthews proved its more about the money then winning. He signed, imo, the most player friendly deal in the league while giving nothing back to the team.

We have JT to be our #1 center for the next half decade+.

Also the market for an 11 mil winger is probably not going to he very big.

I'd trade auston unless some team is willing to overpay for marner

Unbelievable the amount of gaslighting that goes on here. This is taken from the first two pages of 17 page thread from earlier this year, there's another from 2018 I didn't touch.

 

[rumman]

This board in a nutshell, asinine take after asinine take and then we pretend they never occurred...













Unbelievable the amount of gaslighting that goes on here. This is taken from the first two pages of 17 page thread from earlier this year, there's another from 2018 I didn't touch.

wow, a little late to the party aren't we? I stand by my opinion, Leafs are in need of more balance and if one of AM/MM/WN has to go to obtain said balance so be it. For your opinion be relevant responding in a timely fashion might strengthen your case, until then.........have a nice month or three...............

 

[Ryan Michaels]

wow, a little late to the party aren't we? I stand by my opinion, Leafs are in need of more balance and if one of AM/MM/WN has to go to obtain said balance so be it. For your opinion be relevant responding in a timely fashion might strengthen your case, until then.........have a nice month or three...............

See the discussion in the thread. Someone thought I was just making up Auston Matthews trade discussions that were pretty rampant for the first couple months of the season.

 

[Fogelhund]

I'd trade Morgan, and it's not because I don't like him, or because he's gone down hill. He is who is, an excellent puck moving and offensive D man, who isn't great defensively. The reason I'd move him, is we'd still have a left side of Muzzin, Dermott and Sandin... I'd only move him, for a quality RHD, who could play first pairing... like a Parayko for example... I love Mo, thought he should have been the captain, but if we can improve our overall team.... I'd do it.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

I'd trade Morgan, and it's not because I don't like him, or because he's gone down hill. He is who is, an excellent puck moving and offensive D man, who isn't great defensively. The reason I'd move him, is we'd still have a left side of Muzzin, Dermott and Sandin... I'd only move him, for a quality RHD, who could play first pairing... like a Parayko for example... I love Mo, thought he should have been the captain, but if we can improve our overall team.... I'd do it.

I get where you are coming from on your analysis but I am totally not at all concerned about Dermy playing da right side. I know he can.
What is concerning to me is we spent 7 years grooming Rielly after drafting him. He is now in his prime years for next 5 years. Whether people like it or not he is a key leader on our team. He was my choice for Captain too even though I have watched JT since he was a little guy, a great Sen and Marlie. But we have 2 guys in Rielly and Muzzy who are now vet leaders. That is all we have. We have to add to that not reduce/maintain. Rielly would not be traded on my team. and I would not trade our 3 kid defenders either as they are our future. My guess is he is going to surprise everyone next season as his game will be much more complete. Do we need to help him with a defensive defender like Hamonic yes. Great teams are built not traded for.

 

[LaPlante94]

I'd trade Morgan, and it's not because I don't like him, or because he's gone down hill. He is who is, an excellent puck moving and offensive D man, who isn't great defensively. The reason I'd move him, is we'd still have a left side of Muzzin, Dermott and Sandin... I'd only move him, for a quality RHD, who could play first pairing... like a Parayko for example... I love Mo, thought he should have been the captain, but if we can improve our overall team.... I'd do it.

You'd take Dermott over Rielly on a steal of a contract for the next 3 years? Dermott and Johnsson package could help improve our team just as much and are much easier to replace on our team.

 

[Fogelhund]

You'd take Dermott over Rielly on a steal of a contract for the next 3 years? Dermott and Johnsson package could help improve our team just as much and are much easier to replace on our team.

You think Dermott + Johnsson = Rielly?

Or near a Rielly level RHD?

 

[Pyrophorus]

You think Dermott + Johnsson = Rielly?

Or near a Rielly level RHD?

I see it more as Pietrangelo>>>Rielly

 

[LaPlante94]

You think Dermott + Johnsson = Rielly?

Or near a Rielly level RHD?

You got a guy who can play in your top 2 forward lines and a D man who can play as high as the 2nd pair. So yeah, I think those 2 could get you a package just as good.