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Player Discussion Morgan Geekie

Geekie has 29 G in 59 G since Monty Massacre

I don’t care if he’s playing with the 64-71 Beatles he’s getting it done

He’s 26 a good guy, this isn’t John Wensink’s 27 goal season. Geekie can pass as well.

Bruins aren’t exactly overflowing with young wingers

The line is crushing it right now

Remember the great Esposito line had a line driver in Espo and a fringe F in Hodge with Chicago, and a third liner in Wayne Cashman

They all aren’t Matthews & Marner top 3 picks

Bruins have a top line folks
 
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A lot of people are underweighting the luck factor with that shooting percentage this season. Say he was shooting at 13% like last year, which is still very high in the NHL and a generous projection (ex: it’s where Pasta shot this year), you are looking at 18-19 goals (close to last year’s 17).

He is a good player and I hope he is re-signed, but regression to the mean statistical history tells us this will be his only 30 goal season. In negotiations, you have to imagine Bruins will take the position that he is a 15-20 goal scorer from here on out and not a 30 goal scorer, and that should bring his AAV down from some of these projections.
 
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MarchysNoseKnows said:
I don’t know that it would be significantly more than a mid first in a good draft though, which is why I wouldn’t match at that level.
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Geekie is a player that needs to be resigned. I feel both camps, know it is best for both to reach an agreement . I do not expect any Swayman like drama in the negotiations.( Four years ,22 mil maybe ?)
 
TD Charlie said:
A team starved for offense lucks into a young 30g getter

They have to keep ‘em and both camps know it. Just praying the contract is within reason
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The pure definition of a career year. Iv said it a few times and will say it again, Bruins need to be careful with this one.

His shooting percentage is off the chart.
 
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4ORRBRUIN said:
The pure definition of a career year. Iv said it a few times and will say it again, Bruins need to be careful with this one.

His shooting percentage is off the chart.
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4ORRBRUIN said:
The pure definition of a career year. Iv said it a few times and will say it again, Bruins need to be careful with this one.

His shooting percentage is off the chart.
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How much of it is being in position to bury the gimmies?

A full season is a full season. I don’t care if it’s the Pastrnak effect or not. He’s played exceptionally well and has solidified himself as the top shooter after 88
 
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TD Charlie said:
How much of it is being in position to bury the gimmies?

A full season is a full season. I don’t care if it’s the Pastrnak effect or not. He’s played exceptionally well and has solidified himself as the top shooter after 88
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Im glad you are not in charge of negotiation. I said nothing about Pasta or "gimmies"

If we could only pay a guy based on his current season. No reason to have a GM.

My point was just careful and don't fall in love with this season.
 
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4ORRBRUIN said:
Im glad you are not in charge of negotiation. I said nothing about Pasta or "gimmies"

If we could only pay a guy based on his current season. No reason to have a GM.

My point was just careful and don't fall in love with this season.
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I know. I said those things. Just trying to spotlight why his SP might be up. My grandmother would’ve scored a few playing with Pastrnak this season and she stepped through the pearly gates 20 something years ago.

Nobody gets paid on just one season. They get paid on trajectory, potential, etc. Geekies agent will use this season as a benchmark, “imagine if my client played all season on the top line with Pastrnak! He would have scored 40!” And whoever the Boston GM is will turn and say “yeah but he’s scoring at a 2x rate and that can’t last. He could score 15 moving forward”

And they’ll go back and forth and do their dance for a while.

Ultimately, the Bruins need this guy more than he needs the Bruins. He’s gonna be paid.
 
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Kudos to Geekie for a better than expected year. 30 goals is a great accomplishment in the NHL. He reminds me somewhat of Mike Knuble. I would expect 3 years at 4 to 5m should get it done. And potentially a tradable contract, unlike E. Lindholm.
 
mikelvl said:
Kudos to Geekie for a better than expected year. 30 goals is a great accomplishment in the NHL. He reminds me somewhat of Mike Knuble. I would expect 3 years at 4 to 5m should get it done. And potentially a tradable contract, unlike E. Lindholm.
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I don't know why Geekie would accept a 3 year deal in the 4s.
 
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DKH said:
Geekie has 29 G in 59 G since Monty Massacre

I don’t care if he’s playing with the 64-71 Beatles he’s getting it done

He’s 26 a good guy, this isn’t John Wensink’s 27 goal season. Geekie can pass as well.

Bruins aren’t exactly overflowing with young wingers

The line is crushing it right now

Remember the great Esposito line had a line driver in Espo and a fringe F in Hodge with Chicago, and a third liner in Wayne Cashman

They all aren’t Matthews & Marner top 3 picks

Bruins have a top line folks
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Good points, who wants to risk trading a 26-year-old 30 goal scorer, and watch the blow back if he goes on to another team and repeats this season. Cahman was not first choice to play with Espo, turned out pretty good, don't you think.
 
TD Charlie said:
I know. I said those things. Just trying to spotlight why his SP might be up. My grandmother would’ve scored a few playing with Pastrnak this season and she stepped through the pearly gates 20 something years ago.

Nobody gets paid on just one season. They get paid on trajectory, potential, etc. Geekies agent will use this season as a benchmark, “imagine if my client played all season on the top line with Pastrnak! He would have scored 40!” And whoever the Boston GM is will turn and say “yeah but he’s scoring at a 2x rate and that can’t last. He could score 15 moving forward”

And they’ll go back and forth and do their dance for a while.

Ultimately, the Bruins need this guy more than he needs the Bruins. He’s gonna be paid.
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You honestly think Geekie has the Bruins over a barrel? There is not a GM in the NHL that wouldn't look at his line mates and his shooting percentage and not be pumping the brakes on this seasons output as a gauge on future contract.

He will get a raise for sure but if he gets greedy he will be gone. I think he will come in very reasonably, he's not dumb and knows what he has in the Bruins.
 
4ORRBRUIN said:
You honestly think Geekie has the Bruins over a barrel? There is not a GM in the NHL that wouldn't look at his line mates and his shooting percentage and not be pumping the brakes on this seasons output as a gauge on future contract.

He will get a raise for sure but if he gets greedy he will be gone. I think he will come in very reasonably, he's not dumb and knows what he has in the Bruins.
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Maybe not over a barrel, but he’s in a damn good spot.

I hope it’s reasonable, but I don’t even know what that is with this guy at this point. A few months ago I would’ve hoped for 3 years around 4 mil. That’s definitely out of the question now. Could be looking close to 6
 
TD Charlie said:
Maybe not over a barrel, but he’s in a damn good spot.

I hope it’s reasonable, but I don’t even know what that is with this guy at this point. A few months ago I would’ve hoped for 3 years around 4 mil. That’s definitely out of the question now. Could be looking close to 6
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Just doing rough math think Geekie can ask to be at, at least 5% of the cap on a 3-4 year deal that would be around 5,5 to 6 mil per season.

At present: Mittelstadt is at 6.5%
Zacha is at 5.4%
 
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Kalus said:
A lot of people are underweighting the luck factor with that shooting percentage this season. Say he was shooting at 13% like last year, which is still very high in the NHL and a generous projection (ex: it’s where Pasta shot this year), you are looking at 18-19 goals (close to last year’s 17).

He is a good player and I hope he is re-signed, but regression to the mean statistical history tells us this will be his only 30 goal season. In negotiations, you have to imagine Bruins will take the position that he is a 15-20 goal scorer from here on out and not a 30 goal scorer, and that should bring his AAV down from some of these projections.
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As I said before. NOBODY is expecting him to maintain a 20% SP. And yes, there will be a regression back to the low-mid teens. The part people aren't looking at, is the fact that he's only averaging TWO SOG PER GAME. He's got 143 for the season right now, in 74 games.

Put this guy in a lineup where he can get 200 shots a season, and 25-30G is definitely achievable. He's scoring when he gets his chances.

Geekie emerging as a legitimate scoring winger is a good thing, people....If Trent Frederic did that, this board would be foaming at the mouth trying to re-sign him for $5+mil.

Pay him DeBrusk money. If you only wanna do a bridge deal, fine. But he needs to be extended.
 
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Kegs said:
he has a nasty shot but he will never drive a line that’s for sure. I like what he brings. I hope they can resign him at 5 million. Time will tell. If he wasn’t so slow to start the season he could have 30 goals. I feel like he really needs a player on his line who has high end passing like pastrnak.
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I think this is why "scouting" players is so hard. We've all had the benefit of watching Geekie a shit ton more than any NHL player on other teams, let alone incoming draft picks.

And still, some here say Geekie is just riding on Pasta's coattails. Geekie can't continue to shoot at these percentages. Geekie was scratched earlier in the season. Geekie can't drive a line., etc, etc, etc

I seem to recall some saying that Pasta is a one trick pony. Set him up on the PP for the one time. Turns out old Pasta is actually a line driver.

Bottom line -- all of us largely suck at projecting future true "value" of players. Even those we've already seen play a ton.
 
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DKH said:
Geekie has 29 G in 59 G since Monty Massacre

I don’t care if he’s playing with the 64-71 Beatles he’s getting it done

He’s 26 a good guy, this isn’t John Wensink’s 27 goal season. Geekie can pass as well.

Bruins aren’t exactly overflowing with young wingers

The line is crushing it right now

Remember the great Esposito line had a line driver in Espo and a fringe F in Hodge with Chicago, and a third liner in Wayne Cashman

They all aren’t Matthews & Marner top 3 picks

Bruins have a top line folks
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People say Geekie isn't worth X and if we could get a 1st for him in an OS compensation we should jump at it.

And yet, how many of our recent first rounders have potted 30 goals in a season?

Letourneau - Doubt it.
Lysell - Doubt it.
Beecher -- NO..
Vaakanainen -- NO. Won't ever be defensive equivalent of a 30G scorer in any way shape or form
McAvoy - YES (in terms of defensive value equivalent of a 30 G scorer)
Frederic - NO.
Zboril - NO.
DeBrusk - YES. But even that wasn't enough to stop a lot of people wanting him traded.
Senyshyn - NO.
Pastrnak - YES
Subban - NO. Maybe the goalie equivalent of 2 goals per year.
Hamilton - YES (see McAvoy)
Seguin - YES
Caron - NO
Colborne - NO
Hamill - NO
Kessel - YES
Lahoff - NO

30 goal scorers get paid. And since Geekie is young and trending up he will get paid and the Bruins will pay him.

If not, this "retool" or "rebuild" will take forever.
 
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