Confirmed with Link: Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee traded to Calgary for Andrei Kuzmenko, Jakob Pelletier, 2025 2nd, 2028 7th

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And Pelletier is a puppy who should also benefit from playing with the Flyers. Both Frost and Farabee likely would have benefitted had they had the current staff in place during the formative years of their respective careers.

There is a one and two year age difference between Farabee and Frost to Pelletier, respectively.

Please stop doing this.
 
Now that Kuzmenko and Pelletier have actually played (albeit only one game) trade seems not so bad.

Playing Matvei with Tippett up in the lineup is nice. And as with Risto can see the benefit of Kuzmenko actually receiving coaching. Had his best season playing under Boudreau and Tocchet - two "dinosaurs" like John Tortorella.

And Pelletier is a puppy who should also benefit from playing with the Flyers. Both Frost and Farabee likely would have benefitted had they had the current staff in place during the formative years of their respective careers.

Farabee is a year older than Pelletier and had his formative years under this staff... in fact he came into the league as one of the best 5v5 scorers in the league per minute and seemed to stagnate...

Frost was younger than Pelletier is now when this staff came in...
 
Farabee is a year older than Pelletier and had his formative years under this staff... in fact he came into the league as one of the best 5v5 scorers in the league per minute and seemed to stagnate...

Frost was younger than Pelletier is now when this staff came in...
Age is irrelevant; performance matters. Tortorella kills players offensive production. He admits that he doesn't know anything about it. After watching his team here for two and half seasons, he has proved his point. We'll just have to wait and see if Farabee and Frost stagnate in Calgary. Based on the evidence of other players (ex-Panarin, Sedins, et al) that were able to get away from Tortorella, they'll do just fine.
 
For me that are stupid vibes and not positive vibes. But hey everyone has the right to be stupid. I will give you all time to come to another conclusion after watching the flyers 10 seasons more. Have fun with Torts and his culture animals

Have pretty much watched the Flyers my entire lifetime. Equating what is going on with the current regime to previous ones is irrelevant.

That's almost like equating the New York Giants franchise built by George Young, Ray Perkins and Bill Parcells with the current mess run by Joe Schoen, John Mara, etc.

Since the days of Bernie Parent with a couple of notable exceptions like Hextall and Boucher (who for some inexplicable reason did not spend his entire career with the Flyers) the club has not been able to develop goalies from within. In Carter Hart and now Sam Ersson they've developed two (with others on the pipeline).

Thanks to Brad Shaw, veterans like Risto, Sanheim, Sean Walker and Nick Seeler are reaching levels previously unanticipated; with a half dozen or so prospects just starting to emerge.

Similarly, the Flyers have talented forwards emerging and the resources which should allow the team to compete without relying on overpriced free agents to fill a lineup in the future.

Jones, Brierre, Tortorella and company seem a lot better than their predecessors.

And while it's not a popular opinion on here, with the emergence of Brink and Cates - and the success of players like Bump and some of the draft picks still in college or Lehigh Valley - Fletcher's group might deserve more credit, too.
For me that are stupid vibes and not positive vibes. But hey everyone has the right to be stupid. I will give you all time to come to another conclusion after watching the flyers 10 seasons more. Have fun with Torts and his culture animals

There is a one and two year age difference between Farabee and Frost to Pelletier, respectively.

Please stop doing this.

True. I knew he was a former first round pick. Didn't realize it was the 2019 draft. My mistake.
 
Age is irrelevant; performance matters. Tortorella kills players offensive production. He admits that he doesn't know anything about it. After watching his team here for two and half seasons, he has proved his point. We'll just have to wait and see if Farabee and Frost stagnate in Calgary. Based on the evidence of other players (ex-Panarin, Sedins, et al) that were able to get away from Tortorella, they'll do just fine.

That's your "evidence"? The Sedins scored before Torts and were finished when he coached them; never winning anything. Panarin led Columbus in goals and signed a contract that Columbus couldn't match. He too has yet to win a championship.

I notice you ignore a bunch of guys who put up outstanding goal totals playing for him.

Modin, Lecavalier, Nash, Gaborik, St. Louis, Atkinson. Need I continue?
 
Have pretty much watched the Flyers my entire lifetime. Equating what is going on with the current regime to previous ones is irrelevant.

That's almost like equating the New York Giants franchise built by George Young, Ray Perkins and Bill Parcells with the current mess run by Joe Schoen, John Mara, etc.

Since the days of Bernie Parent with a couple of notable exceptions like Hextall and Boucher (who for some inexplicable reason did not spend his entire career with the Flyers) the club has not been able to develop goalies from within. In Carter Hart and now Sam Ersson they've developed two (with others on the pipeline).

Thanks to Brad Shaw, veterans like Risto, Sanheim, Sean Walker and Nick Seeler are reaching levels previously unanticipated; with a half dozen or so prospects just starting to emerge.

Similarly, the Flyers have talented forwards emerging and the resources which should allow the team to compete without relying on overpriced free agents to fill a lineup in the future.

Jones, Brierre, Tortorella and company seem a lot better than their predecessors.

And while it's not a popular opinion on here, with the emergence of Brink and Cates - and the success of players like Bump and some of the draft picks still in college or Lehigh Valley - Fletcher's group might deserve more credit, too.




True. I knew he was a former first round pick. Didn't realize it was the 2019 draft. My mistake.
Mentioning some of the OG´s of the game in one post with Fisto or Seeler or Briere (as a GM) shows you have no clue what you are talking about! I think you have blind faith and thats ok if you want to choose so. But its blind faith .... do it if you want!
 

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