Confirmed with Link: Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee traded to Calgary for Andrei Kuzmenko, Jakob Pelletier, 2025 2nd, 2028 7th

[TheKingPin]

So WTF are we doing this trade for?!?!?

 

[flyersnorth]

When’s the deadline to submit a list?

I see what you did there.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I'm afraid that the Flyers think they did something good. At best this is a nothing burger and just moves contracts off the books, but there's nothing in the pipelines that I know of that makes it a necessity to get contracts off the books.

24 and 25 year old contracts to boot

 

[Beef Invictus]

Oh my god this is someone they actively want, like really badly. Holy shit it's not just some cap swap. This is the goal.

LLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLing in the rain here

 

[BillDineen]

Dreger said on Barn Burner podcast Flyers want to go big game hunting maybe as early as this summer. Rated the trade to the Flames favor

 

[Beef Invictus]

Not really. I mean Farabee isn't as good as Laughton at LW right now.
Frost was a 3C playing in the top 6. They weren't going to pay real money to keep him around.

They should have got a better return, but neither player was in their future plans.

Kuzmenko - Couts - Michkov
Foerster - Cates - Brink
Tippett - Laughton - TK
Pelletier/Abols - Poehling - Hathaway

Now the real question is what's next.

Making this trade now signals Briere has written off this season, and is open for business, so I won't be surprised if Laughton and Risto are traded, maybe Hathaway, Poehling, and Seeler might waive his NTC to go to the playoffs.

If they should have gotten a better return then the move is a failure. Full stop. You do not have to do anything to justify it. They failed. They lost.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Dreger said on Barn Burner podcast Flyers want to go big game hunting maybe as early as this summer. Rated the trade to the Flames favor

Weird. Almost like that’s the exact timeline they’ve always been operating on.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

We're f***ed. Like dry anal f***ed.

 

[BillDineen]

Dreger also said they didn't want to have to move Farabee (from a "senior source" last night)

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

The trade developed while the Flames hosted the Anaheim Ducks, and Pelletier was pulled from the game. The 23-year-old played 5:22 of ice time.

NHL analyst makes his thoughts clear on Flyers' 'big' four-player trade with Flames, reuniting Andrei Kuzmenko and $2,850,000 forward

NHL insider Carlo Colaiacovo on Friday weighed in on the Flyers-Flames 'big' four-player trade. The co-host of TSN’s First Up called the trade a “needle mover.

www.sportskeeda.com

I haven’t fact checked this:

 

[ajgoal]

Dreger said on Barn Burner podcast Flyers want to go big game hunting maybe as early as this summer. Rated the trade to the Flames favor

If only there was a potentially available 1C that they could have tried to use those pieces to acquire.

 

[ponder719]

Dreger also said they didn't want to have to move Farabee (from a "senior source" last night)

OK, winner winner chicken dinner for the dumbest f***ing thing anyone's said about this deal. If they didn't want to have to move him, the solution was, quite simply, f***ING DON'T!

 

[TheGreenTBer]

We're f***ed. Like dry anal f***ed.

No kink shaming on HF

 

[BernieParent]

I wonder if this means that Foerster goes back to C? Maybe Michkov gets a try at C as well?

Sorry, we don't do development in the NHL.

 

[Lord Defect]

OK, winner winner chicken dinner for the dumbest f***ing thing anyone's said about this deal. If they didn't want to have to move him, the solution was, quite simply, f***ING DON'T!

But then they wouldn’t have had the leverage the get kuz or that sweet sweet 7th.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

LLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLing in the rain here

We've been fans of this team long enough to know that's urine. Use an umbrella.

 

[Beef Invictus]

They're not going to resign Kuzmenko. He's here only as a sop to Michkov.

He waived his NTC probably b/c he's been a healthy scratch lately, is entering a contract year and hopes to get more PT in Philly than he was going to get in Calgary.

They're going to re sign him. 100%

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I have no idea what they're going to do. Happily admit that.

What I don't quite understand is the combination of ideas that they specifically acquired Kuzmenko for Michkov AND they have no intention at all to keep him. If that's why, wouldn't they want to keep him?

 

[FlyerNutter]

Michkov wanted specifically to play for this organization.

This kid might actually be a dumbass

 

[trostol]

Got me thinking who do I even care about on this current roster. It was always a team fan to be first, then the last 10 years this organization did everything to make the players the more likeable part of the equation... and now, its basically.. who for me? York, Sanheim. Konecny.
Attachment to 3 players and 0 f***s given about the franchise. Phi management did marvelous job

i said this a while back...there is no one i really like on this team..it is a pretty unlikable team over all

 

[pit]

I have no idea what they're going to do. Happily admit that.

What I don't quite understand is the combination of ideas that they specifically acquired Kuzmenko for Michkov AND they have no intention at all to keep him. If that's why, wouldn't they want to keep him?

You're not on their 4D chess level Jojo.

 

[TheKingPin]

Michkov wanted specifically to play for this organization.

This kid might actually be a dumbass

I think his late father liked the flyers. Flyers got so lucky with that, but we need to get MM out of here asap. This next 10-15 years will be so much worse than the last.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Let's take a look at Briere's body of work so far since he was hired on 5/11/2023

History of NHL trades by the Philadelphia Flyers - NHL Trade Tracker

Outside of the Provorov trade and lucking into Michkov, every move has been questionable or actively bad.

This is the guy they bent over to make their GM, including possibly buying a f***ing echl team just to give him pretend experience.

 

[FlyerNutter]

I think his late father liked the flyers. Flyers got so lucky with that, but we need to get MM out of here asap. This next 10-15 years will be so much worse than the last.

I have no attachment to him like Giroux. I kind of grew up with G in a way.

I liked the idea of Michkov but f*** him if guys like Kuzmenko is who they have to get to make him happy.

I’ll like him if he continues to stand against Tortorella. Otherwise he can go f*** himself like golden boys Cates or Tippet.

 

[Beef Invictus]

That doesn't tell the whole story. He was injured early in the season (or preseason, can't remember) and Flames took a risk hoping they would be able to sneak him to AHL while every team had their roster spots full. He played well after his call-up (and played PPG in the AHL before that), and 100% would not have cleared waivers if he was waived today.

Certain people here have argued that because NHL GMs are infallible, if a player passes through waivers then he is not and never will be an NHL player, so that's the context for these comments