Proposal: More Than A Philing: CAL + ARI

[Perennial]

To Calgary: Kessel, one of Goligoski/Hjalmarsson/Demers (50% retained)

To Arizona: 2021 3rd, Pelletier, Bennett, Lucic


Calgary's window is now, so they add an offensive RW, a veteran RD, while also dumping Lucic's contract

Arizona get a talented young LW to be part of their long term core, a reclamation project with upside in Bennett, plus a 3rd rd pick in this year's draft




Which Dman should Calgary receive to balance out the value?

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[blankall]

Awful asset management for the Flames moving their best prospect for 33 year old Kessel. No way.

 

[Perennial]

Awful asset management for the Flames moving their best prospect for 33 year old Kessel. No way.

They're also clearing the contract of their worst asset...

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

OP has an addiction to making cap dump trade proposals for every team in the league.

 

[blankall]

They're also clearing the contract of their worst asset...

The Flames take on more cap in these deals. Do you really think Kessel at 6.8 is a great deal?

Lucic is overpaid but plays a role.

 

[Perennial]

The Flames take on more cap in these deals. Do you really think Kessel at 6.8 is a great deal?

Lucic is overpaid but plays a role.

I never said Kessel was a great deal...

But, I would rather have Kessel for the next 2 years at 6.8, than have Lucic for the next 3 years at 5.25

 

[SR]

No problem giving up what Arizona is giving up in the deal, however don’t want anything to do with Lucic’s contract.

We have a lot of money coming off the books at years end which will open up the wallet for the GM.

 

[Perennial]

No problem giving up what Arizona is giving up in the deal, however don’t want anything to do with Lucic’s contract.

We have a lot of money coming off the books at years end which will open up the wallet for the GM.

Arizona is going to have close to 30 million coming off their books this summer, what exactly do you hope they accomplish with that cap space that can't be done if Kessel is swapped for Lucic?

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

Not interested at all.

 

[_Del_]

To Calgary: Kessel, one of Goligoski/Hjalmarsson/Demers (50% retained)

To Arizona: 2021 3rd, Pelletier, Bennett, Lucic

It's not terrible because I like Bennett. Pelletier is a fine prospect, but the Coyotes' top-six is already incredibly light in the pants. Kessel actually looks like a top-six forward this season. I don't see why AZ would do this.

 

[Perennial]

It's not terrible because I like Bennett. Pelletier is a fine prospect, but the Coyotes' top-six is already incredibly light in the pants. Kessel actually looks like a top-six forward this season. I don't see why AZ would do this.

Because the Coyotes are 2nd last in their division, aren't contenders, and should be building towards the future

 

[SR]

Arizona is going to have close to 30 million coming off their books this summer, what exactly do you hope they accomplish with that cap space that can't be done if Kessel is swapped for Lucic?

What can be done? Not spend to the cap and have flexibility to see what shakes out on other strapped teams that can’t afford their players. See what they can get for vulnerable teams in the expansion draft and not waste 5.25m on Milan Lucic. That’s what they can do.

 

[_Del_]

Because the Coyotes are 2nd last in their division, aren't contenders, and should be building towards the future

Are they going to flip Pelletier for something they need more and draft a franchise changing forward in the third round?

 

[SR]

Because the Coyotes are 2nd last in their division, aren't contenders, and should be building towards the future

Just because you made the offer and like it, doesn’t mean everyone else will. It’s not a horrible offer, but we have absolutely zero need for Lucic. How does Lucic help for rebuilding for the future? He’s a liability. We would be paying him to sit.

 

[Bouboumaster]

If anything else, hilarious thread name

 

[Larry Hanson]

They both have trade protection that neither player is likely to waive for this deal so what's the point?

 

[VoluntaryDom]

other than the very specific 2016-21 sample, in every sample of any year 2008/09/10/etc-21 lucic has higher value above replacement level than kessel.

 

[Mosby]

I don’t think Kessel would waive for CGY anyway.

 

[TySmith4Norris]

Kessel threads should be autolocked

Pens fans are happy to explain how he forced his way to Arizona

He has his cup rings, he isn’t waiving for a city with worse golf courses

 

[Atoyot]

I'm starting to get the sense that OP starts with puns and then builds trades around them.

 

[Perennial]

I'm starting to get the sense that OP starts with puns and then builds trades around them.

Nope

 

[blankall]

Kessel threads should be autolocked

Pens fans are happy to explain how he forced his way to Arizona

He has his cup rings, he isn’t waiving for a city with worse golf courses

Lol. Good point. Phoenix is where retired Calgarians go to vacation and play golf in the winter. Can't see Kessel going the opposite way.

 

[rt]

Kessel has a NMC. He’s not going to go play in the Canadian league.

 

[BHD]

I wouldn't be giving up significant assets for Kessel at this point.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

At what point do the mods step In