Post-Game Talk: Montreal - where the people are beautiful and Oilers hockey is ugly

[MoontoScott]

A simple step in the right direction that doesn't require too much balls:

Call up Philp (who is producing at the AHL level) and put Ryan on waivers. Ryan can play in Bako and if you need him (due to injuries) then recall him. Why keep going with guys who are at the end of the road?

A few simple steps might get the team some traction.

 

[VeteranPresence]

So what? Many teams lose 5 players in a year. Florida lost 5-6 not insignificant players as well (OEL, Tarasenko, Montour, Stolarz, etc.). And they even started the year with Barkov hurt. Did they cry like a bunch of bitches?

In the playoff scoring they lost one guy in their top 10 scorers, Foegele who was 8th place tied with Janmark for points (Janmark had more goals).

That's a bitch attitude, I'm sorry. Might as well remove your testicles while you're at it.

Unfortunately it’s a reflection of the leadership group. McDrai are clearly not giving this team their best off the ice and it shows on it.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Least amount of 5x5 ice time tonight. Go figure.

I hate this teams lineup decisions this year.

 

[Drivesaitl]

So what? Many teams lose 5 players in a year. Florida lost 5-6 not insignificant players as well (OEL, Tarasenko, Montour, Stolarz, etc.). And they even started the year with Barkov hurt. Did they cry like a bunch of bitches?

In the playoff scoring they lost one guy in their top 10 scorers, Foegele who was 8th place tied with Janmark for points (Janmark had more goals). Brett Kulak had double the points of McLeod.

That's a bitch attitude, I'm sorry. Might as well remove your testicles while you're at it.

You might notice the Florida team was loaded, absolutely loaded before they lost those guys and are now. The Oiler at any given time have a dozen fill players in the lineup. Whats even the core of this club? Its a short list.

No other contending team in the league has as little depth as the Oilers have.

 

[Soundwave]

Unfortunately it’s a reflection of the leadership group. McDrai are clearly not giving this team their best off the ice and it shows on it.

What exactly are they supposed to do "off the ice"? They did the whole stupid, work hard and start training camp 1-2 weeks early last year and it did f*** all.

Coaches need to be a bit smarter, Woodcroft's head grew too big and then he didn't manage pre-season well and it killed him. Knoblaugh needs to understand coaching is more than just focusing on a mistake free defensive system, seems like he doesn't coach the offense much at all and just waits for McDavid/Draisiatl to carry that aspect.

Well you need to coach now buddy. You need to show some adjustments here. Top coaches in this league don't just quit at "well this worked last year, why isn't it working now?". Figure something out, if you want to be thought of as one of the big boy coaches, then tailor a system to what you have.

 

[Duke74]

I didn’t watch the game and kept forgetting all night to check the score, just saw the final now. Can someone give me a rundown of the game?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Does this coaching staff know that there’s more to the game than just X’s and O’s defence. The power play is beyond stagnant and predictable. Maybe focus on coaching some offense into the team. Change it up ffs.

Make some players accountable. Bench some players. You have Josh Brown dressed. Xhekaj takes a late hit on Hyman. Send Brown out there to do something about it. Get some emotion going. This team plays as boring and listless as Knob’s pressers.

WE don't have enough players to bench. I get the sentiment but if we do that its probably a long losing streak.

 

[Soundwave]

You might notice the Florida team was loaded, absolutely loaded before they lost those guys and are now. The Oiler at any given time have a dozen fill players in the lineup. Whats even the core of this club? Its a short list.

No other contending team in the league has as little depth as the Oilers have.

It's not like the Oilers made the Cup Final with any extraordinary depth. Foegele had 3 goals in the playoffs and the same number of points as Janmark, fewer goals.

McLeod wasn't even in the top 15 for team scoring and had 1 goal through three playoff rounds. Cody Ceci had more points in the playoffs than McLeod.

1990 Kid Line style depth that sure as f*** wasn't. Wasn't even close to the depth of 05-06 team frankly.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Unfortunately it’s a reflection of the leadership group. McDrai are clearly not giving this team their best off the ice and it shows on it.

Sorry but what on Earth. Drai is leading the NHL in scoring despite not having linemates. How would you or anybody know what McDrai are giving off the ice?

 

[foshizzle]

I wish we could trade one shot Skinner. But this magnificent management group who pats themselves on the back gave him a NMC. Jeff Skinner. Freshly bought out from the Buffalo Sabres, Jeff Skinner. Fourth line Jeff Skinner. They gave him a No Movement Clause. On a cap strapped team that may need options. Like why?

He hasn’t been given a chance on a scoring line. He’s played 30 measly mins with Draisaitl. This coach is heading down the stubborness road like Woody and Todd.

 

[VeteranPresence]

What exactly are they supposed to do "off the ice"? They did the whole stupid, work hard and start training camp 1-2 weeks early last year and it did f*** all.

I agree with all the stuff about Knobby owning the systems and lineup choices, but Connor and Leon are responsible for the room and getting the guys up for battle. That’s what captains and superstars do.

Instead we have an increasing number of passengers and McDrai just skate around with scowls on their faces. Something isn’t translating here and it stinks.

 

[foshizzle]

I agree with all the stuff about Knobby owning the systems and lineup choices, but Connor and Leon are responsible for the room and getting the guys up for battle. That’s what captains and superstars do.

Instead we have an increasing number of passengers and McDrai just skate around with scowls on their faces. Something isn’t translating here and it stinks.

You have no clue what you are talking about

 

[Drivesaitl]

It's not like the Oilers made the Cup Final with any extraordinary depth. Foegele had 3 goals in the playoffs and the same number of points as Janmark, fewer goals.

McLeod wasn't even in the top 15 for team scoring and had 1 goal through three playoff rounds. Cody Ceci had more points in the playoffs than McLeod.

McLeod scored 5 playoff goals, Foegele 3, Holloway 5, Ceci 2, Broberg 3. Thats 28 playoff goals.

 

[Soundwave]

He hasn’t been given a chance on a scoring line. He’s played 30 measly mins with Draisaitl. This coach is heading down the stubborness road like Woody and Todd.

Yep, the handling of this player is starting to look very suspect, much in a similar way to how Todd dug his own grave here especially.

Knoublaugh doesn't seem to have any offensive coaching ability other than just spamming the same thing with McDavid/Draisaitl + McDavid/Drai PP magic.

Well other teams are scouting the PP buddy. You might want to try something else.

 

[Soundwave]

McLeod scored 5 playoff goals, Foegele 3, Holloway 5, Ceci 2, Broberg 3. Thats 28 playoff goals.

McLeod scored 4. In points Foegele was 8th on the team, Holloway 12th, McLeod was 16th below Ceci.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Yep, the handling of this player is starting to look very suspect, much in a similar way to how Todd dug his own grave here especially.

Knoublaugh doesn't seem to have any offensive coaching ability other than just spamming the same thing with McDavid/Draisaitl + McDavid/Drai PP magic.

Well other teams are scouting the PP buddy. You might want to try something else.

The handling of Jeff Skinner, noted team and locker room cancer isn't being handled well here. lolol This is a coach kill player wherever he is and always has been.

J Skinner -8 predictably worst on team, on even sheltered and easy minutes. But lets get him harder time, lol.

This was so f***ing predictable that Skinner would be garbage here on a retirement contract. Whats he got to play for with all his guaranteed money? You think he has any interest into cutting into his offseason? This guy is a confirmed headcase for many years. Oilers fans used to lol about Skinner being the single worst contract in the league.

The only faults is the team obtaining J Skinner and his goal suck baggage. Thank gawd they never managed to get King Karlson. I heard they tried...

 

[Soundwave]

I agree with all the stuff about Knobby owning the systems and lineup choices, but Connor and Leon are responsible for the room and getting the guys up for battle. That’s what captains and superstars do.

Instead we have an increasing number of passengers and McDrai just skate around with scowls on their faces. Something isn’t translating here and it stinks.

I think it's maybe more that these two are not that easy to play with. But that can be the case with great players, you need to have a certain motor and certain reads at high speed to play with them. Crosby was kinda the same way, they made big acquisitions with like Iginla being added and then later Kessel, but it never really worked with those guys playing with Crosby himself. Kessel ended up on his own line or with Malkin, with Iginla it didn't work so great and he left for Boston. James Neal primarily played with Malkin too.

We've brought in tons of wingers and pretty much none stick here except Hyman. We've never had a stable 2nd line.

It's becoming a major problem.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

WE don't have enough players to bench. I get the sentiment but if we do that it’s probably a long losing streak.

You know what, you may be right about benching. But there’s more than one way to send a message. Revamp the powerplay for the next 3-5 games. No more gravy time for Nuge, Hyman, and Bouch. Give some other guys some reps. Maybe, when this listless trio gets another crack at it, they will stop puck watching and start producing.

 

[Drivesaitl]

McLeod scored 4. In points Foegele was 8th on the team, Holloway 12th, McLeod was 16th below Ceci.

Short and to the point I'd have any and all of them over J Skinner, Arvid the injured, and Shoeless Joe Podkolzin.

A month ago you were tellling me it was coming, this team was coming. I don't see it. The shit might just hit the fan this time.

 

[Soundwave]

Short and to the point I'd have any and all of them over J Skinner, Arvid the injured, and Shoeless Joe Podkolzin.

A month ago you were tellling me it was coming, this team was coming. I don't see it. The shit might just hit the fan this time.

Well it's not like looking like shit as of mid-November is something specific to this year's team.

They've looked like shit the previous two years at this time too, how do you explain that?

This is the team he has, if Knob wants to quit, he can go cry and leave his balls with the equipment staff and resign and we can get on with our annual fire-a-coach-a-thon.

Or he can try something else, because clearly teams are scouting specifically for the things the Oilers did last year.

Make a f***ing adjustment or you get what you deserve in this league.

 

[Drivesaitl]

You know what, you may be right about benching. But there’s more than one way to send a message. Revamp the powerplay for the next 3-5 games. No more gravy time for Nuge, Hyman, and Bouch. Give some other guys some reps. Maybe, when this listless trio gets another crack at it, they will stop puck watching and start producing.

J Skinner has averaged 11mns last 5 games and went as low as 8mins one night. He' been demoted to bottomsix more times than I can count. All kinds of messages sent. At end of day its up to players to bring it.

The trouble is Skinner has some of the worst work ethics of any player on the club. Been called out on it by previous coaches. He's not exactly a hard worker. What kind of message is it if you take a player that is almost being HS and put him on first unit PP?

Might just be me but I don't know anybody even wants this guy on their line.

On any other contending lineup J Skinner would be HS by now. He's - in every game now even on vastly reduced sheltered easy minutes. Its almost like you can't even have him out there. But this is who he is as a player. High GA. Always has been.

 

[Soundwave]

J Skinner has averaged 11mns last 5 games and went as low as 8mins one night. He' been demoted to bottomsix more times than I can count. All kinds of messages sent. At end of day its up to players to bring it.

The trouble is Skinner has some of the worst work ethics of any player on the club. Been called out on it by previous coaches. He's not exactly a hard worker. What kind of message is it if you take a player that is almost being HS and put him on first unit PP?

Might just be me but I don't know anybody even wants this guy on their line.

On any other contending lineup J Skinner would be HS by now.

Any messages for 0 goals in 50+ tries on the PP for RNH?

Oilers coaches sure do love themselves some good ol fashioned favoritism.

Making no adjustments worked great for Todd, Tipp, and Woody. Putting players like Strome and Broberg in the dog house totally worked out great.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Any messages for 0 goals in 50+ tries on the PP for RNH?

Oilers coaches sure do love themselves some good ol fashioned favoritism.

Making no adjustments worked great for Todd, Tipp, and Woody. Putting players like Strome and Broberg in the dog house totally worked out great.

Knoblauch has to know how petty and stupid he looks taking out his frustration on Skinner when he has three of the longest tenured Oilers making a joke out of their profession on a nightly basis. The mystery is why he keeps doing it- are McDrai running the bench?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Any messages for 0 goals in 50+ tries on the PP for RNH?

Oilers coaches sure do love themselves some good ol fashioned favoritism.

Making no adjustments worked great for Todd, Tipp, and Woody. Putting players like Strome and Broberg in the dog house totally worked out great.

This is plain silly. I'm not even a Nuge defender but he never met a coach that didn't love his all round play. Just what it is. Conversely no coach has trusted Skinner. That was a dilemna going in. Already known we have some of the most weak ass goaltending in the league. So what does the braintrust do? not solve the goaltending file, not even look at it, but bring in GA disasters like Jeff Skinner to help around the shop. There wasn't even a chance this was going to help the club in an outscoring net goals perspective.

I'll wait some more before declaring KK won't make any adjustments ever.

 

[Soundwave]

Knoblauch has to know how petty and stupid he looks taking out his frustration on Skinner when he has three of the longest tenured Oilers making a joke out of their profession on a nightly basis. The mystery is why he keeps doing it- are McDrai running the bench?

The solution is obviously to play McDrai together now. Bet that classic is coming.