Value of: Montreal/Vegas

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Karlsson to Montreal be a good fit. What would Vegas want in return?

 

[The Duck Knight]

Karlsson is a total non starter in all likelihood. Do you have a better two way center to offer for him? Because that is the only reason they would move him. They have chosen to build down the middle and on defense. The top 4 on D is locked up long term. Them and the big 3 centers + Stone aren't going anywhere.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Karlsson is a total non starter in all likelihood. Do you have a better two way center to offer for him? Because that is the only reason they would move him. They have chosen to build down the middle and on defense. The top 4 on D is locked up long term. Them and the big 3 centers + Stone aren't going anywhere.

He's 6 million a year. Imagine they going to be looking for caproom

 

[SteelCityCannon]

He's 6 million a year. Imagine they going to be looking for caproom

Nobody is now.

 

[BKarchitect]

He's 6 million a year. Imagine they going to be looking for caproom

It would cost a lot more to enter the market to grab a replacement center than to just keep Karlsson. His goal scoring tends to fluctuate but he does a ton of little things well and is a savvy and experienced playoff performer who can log high minutes.

To grab another center who can play "hard" second line minutes and is a true, true center who is elite on the dot and defensively - well, that's just not easy to do, as it is clear in the current environment.

 

[hangman005]

My post from the last one of these a month back...

We would be foolish to move him, unless the overpay is just un-saynoable.

Production, I have no concerns with his production it's down on the last year, sure but there are a few factors at play. Injury both playing and non playing, also being saddled with the dead weight of Holtz and Schwindt for the parts of the season he did play, haven't helped. We just reunited him Smith and they a looking fantastic together. He is an extremely dependable two way center, solid on the PK. He is one the last player we should consider moving.

For me, he's about as untouchable as it gets.

 

[PullHard]

He's 6 million a year. Imagine they going to be looking for caproom

Contenders have been paying 3rd line players $5-6M for years now. With the cap jumping up, his hit is actually advantageous.

 

[pth2]

Karlsson is a total non starter in all likelihood. Do you have a better two way center to offer for him? Because that is the only reason they would move him. They have chosen to build down the middle and on defense. The top 4 on D is locked up long term. Them and the big 3 centers + Stone aren't going anywhere.

Thanks for just saying he's unavailable, rather than the standard HF answer of asking for a massive overpayment.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Nobody is now.

Getting swept early imagine Vegas looking to improve. Eichel needs a new deal.

 

[BKarchitect]

Getting swept early imagine Vegas looking to improve. Eichel needs a new deal.

Moving Wild Bill makes them worse. His contract is not a problem in the slightest. He does stuff that isn’t easily replaced on that roster.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Getting swept early imagine Vegas looking to improve. Eichel needs a new deal.

You don't improve by trading one of your most important forwards on a team friendly deal. That's how you make your team worse.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

Getting swept early imagine Vegas looking to improve. Eichel needs a new deal.

What does that have to do with everyone having cap space now? Cap space is no longer at the premium it was the past few years.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Just watch tonight's game. Then you'll understand why Karlsson is not being moved.

 

[miscs75]

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Karlsson to Montreal be a good fit. What would Vegas want in return?

Oliver Kapanen and Jacob Fowler

 

[vokiel]

Oliver Kapanen and Jacob Fowler

Yeah too expensive. How about Roy for Roy ?

 

[Gaud]

Thanks for just saying he's unavailable, rather than the standard HF answer of asking for a massive overpayment.

lol
this is the same to me; unavailable means that it'd take more than its worth.

 

[JustStopThePuck]

Great player but considering Hughes saying he'd only trade for a player who be in his prime during our contention window and considering Karlsson's age, it doesn't fit.

 

[Fizzz]

Hypothetically:

Marner want's to sign as a UFA, Vegas has to move around 5-7m to make him fit, does that make Karlsson expendable?

 

[The Duck Knight]

Hypothetically:

Marner want's to sign as a UFA, Vegas has to move around 5-7m to make him fit, does that make Karlsson expendable?

No. Even in that hypothetical Vegas can't afford Marner. Right now they are going to have 9m in cap space and need to sign 3 top 9 wingers, a 4th line left wing and a backup goalie. Marner in and Karlsson out would leave them with probably 2 million in space and still needing 3 top 9 forwards and a backup goalie.

They aren't going to be in on Marner unless something crazy happens like Stone retiring.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Oliver Kapanen and Jacob Fowler

We can swing a deal for 20th overall pick in draft, trade you that for Karlsson?

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Karlsson + Whitecloud + Holtz + 2025 WAS 3rd + 2026 VGK 3rd
for
Suzuki + Xhekaj + Harvey-Pinard

And you could include Carey Price too if that helps Montreal in any way.

( Yes this is a joke )

 

[glenbuis2]

Karlsson + Whitecloud + Holtz + 2025 WAS 3rd + 2026 VGK 3rd
for
Suzuki + Xhekaj + Harvey-Pinard

And you could include Carey Price too if that helps Montreal in any way.

( Yes this is a joke )

that is one brutal offer . karlsson is washed . suzuki and Xhekaj are non starters

 

[ole ole]

Oliver Kapanen and Jacob Fowler

Habs pass. Fowler is our future.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Habs pass. Fowler is our future.

Kapanen and our 2nd I would counter offer with