Proposal: Montreal - Los Angeles / Montreal - Colorado

the paisanos guy

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So if i read this right your offering 1st 2nd Mikhail Sergachev and Beaulieu? If so not enough we need someone to play right away at a rate we can afford to remotely consider it Beaulieu is not of interest as we have alot of young d coming and we would already be adding Sergachev Beaulieu is not ready for the type of mintues needed to replace jake sorry

Lol Sergachev, Beaulieu, 1st, 2nd is an absurd overpayment for Muzzin.
 

KingCanadain1976

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Lol Sergachev, Beaulieu, 1st, 2nd is an absurd overpayment for Muzzin.

Only way kings interested in trading muzzin is a overpayment and rightfully so He's one of the best number 2 in the nhl. Larsson got Hall from Edmonton. Muzzin is way better then Larsson so what that worth I also was not the one offering it so why you're quoting me is absurd
 

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Only way kings interested in trading muzzin is a overpayment and rightfully so He's one of the best number 2 in the nhl. Larsson got Hall from Edmonton. Muzzin is way better then Larsson so what that worth I also was not the one offering it so why you're quoting me is absurd

No GM will offer this kind of return for Muzzin. Not while Trouba and Fowler are available anyways.
 

KingCanadain1976

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No GM will offer this kind of return for Muzzin. Not while Trouba and Fowler are available anyways.

First off it was not me asking for that offer. It come from a hab fan FazChenyuk so go talk to him about making it. Next Muzzin is not available so it would take a insane offer to even get our gm to think about trading him. Muzzin is better then both Trouba and Fowler. Jake is among the top corsi players in the league since corsi has come out. If Larsson can get a former overall number 1 pick in taylor hall What does a top corsi better defenseman in jake muzzin get ? Have a nice day
 

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Jake has more points then larsson, plays more mins then larsson Has a better corsi then larsson He has played at a high rate in the playoffs which larsson hasn't done In what world is muzzin not way better then larsson?

In this world. The one where Larsson is as good as Muzzin.
 

Ivan13

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I suggest you go put up a poll and we would see that muzzin would win it by a landslide I like Larsson and wanted him in la but comparing the two Its Muzzin by a mile.

If you want to do a poll go ahead, I pay no mind to them, as I'm not overly interested in fanboys voting for their favorite players, it's a popularity contest and has no bearing in determing actual player value.

I saw the two of them play plenty and the difference between them is negligible all things considered. But I'm sure you, being a Kings fan that probably didn't saw Larsson all that much know better.
 

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If you want to do a poll go ahead, I pay no mind to them, as I'm not overly interested in fanboys voting for their favorite players, it's a popularity contest and has no bearing in determing actual player value.

I saw the two of them play plenty and the difference between them is negligible all things considered. But I'm sure you, being a Kings fan that probably didn't saw Larsson all that much know better.

lol you have not stated one thing that Larsson is better at then Muzzin I have stated points, corsi , time on ice and playoff play. I have seen as much of larsson as you have of muzzin and to me there is no comparison Muzzin by a landslide Your entitled to your opinion but you should be able to back it up with some sort reasoning other then your say so However i won't try and change your mind as its closed to any reasoning HAve a nice day
 

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The Montreal - Colorado is a good one, good job OP. However I would simply scratch Mitchell and Barberio unless COL really wants him.

This would gives us a very interesting Center depth of Galchenyuk #1, Plekanec #2/3, Soderberg #2/3 and Mitchell #4.

And it gives Colorado a 20 years old offensive prospect who's almost a PPG in the AHL. DD is a cap dump but he might surprise some, he proved in the past he can put a lot of points with a goal scoring winger.

I don't see why L.A would be interested in the proposal so I wont bother.
 

Treb

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The trade with Colorado is tilted heavily in Habs favor, speaking as a fan of both teams. Soderberg is a decent top 6 forward, Mitchell I don't care for, but he would be nice if kept on the 4th line exclusively. DD is almost negative value, Scherbak (watched plenty of him in junior with the Blades) is a far cry to ever become anything at the NHL level and Barberio is essentially worthless to Colorado. I honestly can't believe Avs fans are saying they would do that.

So you base yourself on viewings from his draft year which was more than 2 years ago?

If he's a far cry to become anything at the NHL level, so is 90% of the first round picks after the top10.

After a tough time last year with injuries, he's already at 1 goal from his total in 36 less games. Scherbak is a valuable prospect.
 

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The LA deal is pretty awful. would you move weber for that pittance?
 

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lol you have not stated one thing that Larsson is better at then Muzzin I have stated points, corsi , time on ice and playoff play. I have seen as much of larsson as you have of muzzin and to me there is no comparison Muzzin by a landslide Your entitled to your opinion but you should be able to back it up with some sort reasoning other then your say so However i won't try and change your mind as its closed to any reasoning HAve a nice day

Larsson doesn't have Doughboy as his partner...that will explain the TOI would it not?
 

Treb

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Why is Montreal re-tooling midseason where they are currently sit on top of the league standings?

Because we have a perceived weakness offensively in the middle 6 center spots (Plek not producing and DD being DD).

We also have no one that meshes completely with Weber (Markov is now too old/slow, Beaulieu isn't there yet if ever and Emelin is Emelin)
 

damacles1156

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Larsson doesn't have Doughboy as his partner...that will explain the TOI would it not?

Muzzin hasn't played the majority of two seasons now with Doughty. Muzzin anchors the Kings second line, with A-Mart.

Muzzin's stats, have always increased (away) from Doughty, not paired with him.
 

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The trade with Colorado is tilted heavily in Habs favor, speaking as a fan of both teams. Soderberg is a decent top 6 forward, Mitchell I don't care for, but he would be nice if kept on the 4th line exclusively. DD is almost negative value, Scherbak (watched plenty of him in junior with the Blades) is a far cry to ever become anything at the NHL level and Barberio is essentially worthless to Colorado. I honestly can't believe Avs fans are saying they would do that.

I wouldn't do it if the expansion draft weren't a thing. But I really still like Scherbak as a prospect (we need wings and I think he'd instantly become our best forward prospect after Jost), and I'd much rather pick up a decent prospect then lose Soderberg for nothing. Not sure if other teams would offer something comparable.
 

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So you base yourself on viewings from his draft year which was more than 2 years ago?

If he's a far cry to become anything at the NHL level, so is 90% of the first round picks after the top10.

After a tough time last year with injuries, he's already at 1 goal from his total in 36 less games. Scherbak is a valuable prospect.

I saw him play in the A as well.
 

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