HF Habs: Montreal Canadiens Hockey Ops - Part 3

[Rapala]

What I want to know is what are we going to be doing about it NOW.
I don't give a damn about next season and I certainly don't give a damn about who we did or didn't select.
From what I've seen so far this season something stinks in the State of Denmark and it isn't just oh we are rebuilding.
The players seem tuned out.

 

[Tyson]

I watched every game, but you clearly haven't been paying attention to how better rosters than ours have fared.
Toronto got smashed 6-2 by Columbus, of all teams, on the same day the Habs played NYR.

Let's resume this conversation after the St. Louis game, hopefully you will be right and the Habs will rebound. I have my doubts but let's circle back up after the game.

 

[morhilane]

What I want to know is what are we going to be doing about NOW.
I don't give a damn about next season and I certainly don't give a damn about who we did or didn't select.
From what I've seen so far this season something stinks in the State of Denmark and it isn't just oh we are rebuilding.
The players seem tuned out.

"We" aren't going to do anything about it.

MSL, lots of video review and practices. I actually think the season start didn't help the team recover after the Bruins lost (even if the next game was their best one). They played 3 games before they had their first practice. Then like two more games before their 2nd practice. This week is the first time they will practices multiple days in a row since the season started.

As for the players being "tuned out", they listen since there was some improvements individually since the season started, but it looks like a mentally fragile group.

 

[hvac412]

Francois Gagnon might be the biggest dumbass in the media. Why doesn't he move to Ottawa....

Correction,Woke dumbass

 

[hvac412]

Let's resume this conversation after the St. Louis game, hopefully you will be right and the Habs will rebound. I have my doubts but let's circle back up after the game.

Thing is we’ve seen this movie too many times,they’ll maybe have a good game or two then shit the bed then have a team bonding session and so on and so forth,one thing i’m sure of is they’re going nowhere very early in the season again !!

 

[Rapala]

"We" aren't going to do anything about it.

MSL, lots of video review and practices. I actually think the season start didn't help the team recover after the Bruins lost (even if the next game was their best one). They played 3 games before they had their first practice. Then like two more games before their 2nd practice. This week is the first time they will practices multiple days in a row since the season started.

As for the players being "tuned out", they listen since there was some improvements individually since the season started, but it looks like a mentally fragile group.

Kaiden Guhle is the only young player to show improvement and then he got tagged again to douse that fire.
Josh Anderson is the only vet that has been better but damn what a low bar to begin with.
Maybe tuned out is the wrong impression but they certainly have no spark and seem to be resigned to their fate.
How many good periods of the 21 has this team played after all.

 

[gusfring]

I just wanna know what the brainiacs in here would have done in the past 3 years , who would you have picked and what you would have done to get us a 1C or a 1D for the rebuild... I'll wait.......

The only thing they could have done is tank HARDER and you guys would have been crying even more than you are now.

The fact you guys prefer to be * in the mix* and get a 10th overall pick when the team is so far out just shows you guys have no patience

No. The issue is we all know this team will win a bunch of games in March when it doesn't matter and hurt their draft position. Either tank or don't.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

No. The issue is we all know this team will win a bunch of games in March when it doesn't matter and hurt their draft position. Either tank or don't.

You're talking to the king tank commander here , Id have blown the whole thing up way worse than Kent did , to the chagrin of those who want to be entertained on a Tuesday night in november. I think its gonna be another top 5 pick here so I'm not very mad about the whole bad start

 

[morhilane]

How many good periods of the 21 has this team played after all.

Not that many, they tend to only be good for like half a period, hence the "mentally weak". They get deflated easily, and turtle when that happens.

I said it last week, I think they started to believe in their own hype and expected this season to be easier and when it wasn't, they just deflated. They had better moral last year. The Laine and Reinbacher injuries might be in cause too or it could be something else behind the scene we don't know about.

Xhekaj mentioned that he's should stop thinking about things he can't control to explain his poor play last week. Slaf also said he was thinking too much on the ice to explain his slow reaction time.

 

[Toene]

I'm not a brainiacs but i'll bite the bullet and honestly not much different,

Slaf was my pick. So was Demidov. Reinbacher was not my pick though. I was more into Michkov but can't blame KH for not drafting Michkov with all the smoke. I don't have much of an opinion over Reinbacher which is why i'll wait and see before ocmplaining. I would have probably kept the pick instead of gambling on Dach but at the same time Dach was a good gamble and still is i mean Eichel spent 10 trillion years injured and then he was not anymore same for Monahan atm. Romanov for a 13th overall was a solid trade. I think all the players he sold were sold for a good price. Two first round pick (Monahan) for nothing was legendary. The move he made i hate the most is Newhook. I think this was an overpay for a 3rd line player and unlike Dach it was not a very interesting gamble he was almost 23. We did not need a Newhook imo we had many potential Newhook in the pipeline.

Yup, the Newhook trade is the most useless one. Dime a dozen middle-six forward. I guess the value is fair, but yeah... meh...

 

[salbutera]

Let's resume this conversation after the St. Louis game, hopefully you will be right and the Habs will rebound. I have my doubts but let's circle back up after the game.

Can’t keep assessing teams game by game - the season is a marathon not sprint.

Needs to viewed in 8-10GP increments IMO

 

[Tyson]

Can’t keep assessing teams game by game - the season is a marathon not sprint.

Needs to viewed in 8-10GP increments IMO

I am speaking of a character rebound game, see if they show up, clean up play in their end. I don't care if they win but it will be telling if the puck drops and they are not ready to play.

 

[salbutera]

I am speaking of a character rebound game, see if they show up, clean up play in their end. I don't care if they win but it will be telling if the puck drops and they are not ready to play.

They were ready at puck drop vs NYR and took it to then in the first shift till Rangers broke up a play and everything melted…

It’s a process, and there’s no freebie Panarin who’s dying to sign with ONLY Habs to help speed up the process..

 

[Tyson]

They were ready at puck drop vs NYR and took it to then in the first shift till Rangers broke up a play and everything melted…

It’s a process, and there’s no freebie Panarin who’s dying to sign with ONLY Habs to help speed up the process..

Being down 3-0 before the 1st TV time out does not equate to being ready at puck drop. I want progress, I don't expect a playoff spot, I do expect improvement.

 

[Vachon23]

We should bring Jim Montgomery as an Advisor like LA did with Bergevin to finish the season.

He could help the coaching staff and helping Hughes with some scouting and advise on certain players.

I don’t think he will accept and assistant job and he could wait for this summer to get an Head coach job.

 

[montreal]

I found it interesting that when Pleks was just at the Habs and Laval games, he thanked the Habs for letting him see how the Laval organization works.

 

[Toene]

I found it interesting that when Pleks was just at the Habs and Laval games, he thanked the Habs for letting him see how the Laval organization works.

Possible future adviser? Assistant-coach? Hockey operations?

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I'd be more than happy to have Pleky in the organisation in some capacity. He's a true Hab and he always had a solid hockey mind.

 

[montreal]

Possible future adviser? Assistant-coach? Hockey operations?

I would think something, rare to hear a former player thank their former team for letting see how their AHL team is run.

 

[Sorinth]

I would think something, rare to hear a former player thank their former team for letting see how their AHL team is run.

Yeah there's likely some discussion about a role but it's also possible that Pleks wants to see how an organization is run to bring that stuff back to a Czech team and the Habs said yes because it's not a competitor and helps build the relationship.

 

[ReHabs]

Are Kent and Jeff going to duck the media all the way until the Trade Deadline?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Are Kent and Jeff going to duck the media all the way until the Trade Deadline?

GM usually meets the media at the mid-way point, which is in the middle of January.

 

[Vachon23]

GM usually meets the media at the mid-way point, which is in the middle of January.

They should have talk to the media last week during the 4 days break for the 1/4 of the season but that’s my opinion

 

[ReHabs]

GM usually meets the media at the mid-way point, which is in the middle of January.

Bergevin and HuGo both admins jumped in front of the cameras whenever they wanted. They have every reason to come and take some attention off sensitive young players Dach and Slafkovsky. It’s not happening. Not sure why.

 

[hvac412]

lol. What does he do then? How about an assistant that can actually coach too? I was never sold on MSL and still am not.

So apparently as brought up by a journalist no team in the history of the Nhl has ever had a coaching staff without any professional (nhl) experience running the team , WTF was Gorton thinking .When we had one of the world’s best goaltenders in the world we had never surrounded him with enough elite talent now we have a rudderless ship…something’s never change