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Post-Game Talk: Montreal Canadiens at New York Rangers 10/8/17

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  • Chris Kreider

    Votes: 4 4.4%

  • Mika Zibanejad

    Votes: 69 75.8%

  • Rick Nash

    Votes: 9 9.9%

  • Mats Zuccarello

    Votes: 8 8.8%

  • Pavel Buchnevich

    Votes: 53 58.2%

  • Kevin Hayes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • JT Miller

    Votes: 9 9.9%

  • Michael Grabner

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Jimmy Vesey

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • David Desharnais

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Paul Carey

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Marc Staal

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Ryan McDonagh

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Brady Skjei

    Votes: 11 12.1%

  • Kevin Shattenkirk

    Votes: 6 6.6%

  • Steven Kampfer

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • Nick Holden

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Anthony Deangleo

    Votes: 4 4.4%

  • Henrik Lundqvist

    Votes: 84 92.3%
  • Total voters
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Yes it`s true - for those who have follow this coach for quite some time now. Why would fans lie about that? It make no sense two different teams as well, and I thought it was obvious by now how young players including Miller get sent up/down in his career, and demoted to 4th line even in his 56 pts. season last year.
For me it`s obvious that this coach don`t have the necessary patience with young players - he feel the pressure already after 3 games. AV base TOI related to pts. production the last 3 games - unless you`re a veteran player like Staal, Nash, Zucc - and it result in inconsistency and a lot of line rotations.
 
I'm not expecting Nash to get on the scoreboard much this year, but damn I wish Kreider would adopt Nash's hunger and effort.
 
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Did u wait on 3 games 0 pts narrative?

He blindly passed to Weber last game and lucky he got away with it. And David is declining, not a good depth move.
And size and physic can be important in hockey especially in a center position - he is not Zucc or Marty St. Louis kind of player.
 
Eh... DD is a very good depth player, on ice results is what i care about, not size... He gets solid on ice results...
 
that shutout had a lot to do with Montreal being very limited talent wise vs us doing anything special defensively or in goal. It was a perfect game for us to settle down.

I can’t blame AV for going with a Kampfer last night over Tony D Justin to settle things down

Hank was all over the place early and could have been down 3 or 4 nothing instead he calms down and has a good game. Problem is these good games a few and far between the last two years. That’s just fact.

There are some great signs though.....

Marc Staal looks fantastic

Pavel Buchnevich looks like Ivan Drago on the puck and playing two way Hockey. Like night and day difference from the player he was a year ago.

DJ Mika is looking like a beast in the middle of the ice and shooting the puck

The powerplay is filthy with that little change of a righty feeding Mika with kreids in front.
 
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Outside of the first 10 minutes, this was a better effort, albeit a boring game. AV playing DeAngelo 3:45 is unacceptable. Miller, Nash, Shattenkirk, Buchnevich (other than the 1st), Zibs all looked dynamite. Vesey was playing with confidence for a few shifts but results were underwhelming. Hank had a very solid game obviously, tracked the puck well, but he still looks a little "off" to me. :dunno:
 
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I think AV has done a great job developing our young talent to this point. Everyone was jumping on him for Miller (and still are lol!!!) but Miller needed it. He wasn't mature enough and AV sent him a message that it takes more than skill to make it with the big boys. Some people act like Miller would have been a combination of Kane and Toews if only AV didn't mess with his head years ago.

Giving an 18 yr old player with minimal NA ice experience very limited minutes in his 9 game stint is not a big deal. Give him a taste, let him learn what he needs to work on, and let him come back hungry to keep the spot next year. We're not in a rebuild mode and AV knows the team must perform this year or he's out, so it's not a shock he sticks with vets over the 18 yr old rookie.

Yes, rookies make mistakes and it's OK to live with their growing pains sometimes. But to get the best of both worlds the brass might feel a year of more development will go a long way to reducing those mistakes and not at the expense of the NHL team and record.
 
Ok, fine that JT is not Toews, and not sure who created that comparison.. But we are good playing our guys out of position. Anyway Miller is back to his natural center this year due to lack of center depth. @romba :)
 
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what the heck I feel like I"m having an aneurysm reading this board this year

Miller has always been better at wing than at center. I'm like 100% sure I could go back to when he was trying to establish himself on the team and everyone said" Yeah he's better at wing than at center, I like him there"

I'm 100% sure he's played the majority of his NHL time at wing. The center position isn't his "natural position" any longer and he has not been played out of position

Good christ
 
Blues next game tomorrow they have 3 W so far.

Blues - Jackets - Devils next three games.
 
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To me, the PP feels and looks almost pristine. There are flashes of it at ES, but then the team gets eaten alive by a team of young studs like Toronto. As Hank and the D system shape into "form" I hope a 5-8 loss will become a 5-4 win for the good guys instead. I'm cautiously optimistic about the team so far, but a few pretty clear weaknesses could subvert a promising season.
 
BlueshirtBlitz said:
To me, the PP feels and looks almost pristine. There are flashes of it at ES, but then the team gets eaten alive by a team of young studs like Toronto. As Hank and the D system shape into "form" I hope a 5-8 loss will become a 5-4 win for the good guys instead. I'm cautiously optimistic about the team so far, but a few pretty clear weaknesses could subvert a promising season.
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Team has the potential to be good, just have to execute it on the ice. I mean only 3 games in, too small of a sample size to make a fair assessment. Maybe about 10 or so games into the season can get a better idea of what needs to be addressed. I am also cautiously optimistic, I see good things, but also not so good things. I also don't expect a team looking sharp or not right out the box to be the telling tale of how their season will be.
 
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Anyone mention how the refs totally blew that off-sides call in the 3rd where Kreider dragged his skate? Not even close.

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Krams said:
Outside of the first 10 minutes, this was a better effort, albeit a boring game. AV playing DeAngelo 3:45 is unacceptable. Miller, Nash, Shattenkirk, Buchnevich (other than the 1st), Zibs all looked dynamite. Vesey was playing with confidence for a few shifts but results were underwhelming. Hank had a very solid game obviously, tracked the puck well, but he still looks a little "off" to me. :dunno:
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I like your avy
 
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Chytil is very young, and very raw. I don't think the TOI he gets in his 9 games here is that important. For a so young prospect I think the experience being around the team and getting an experience of what that will be expected of him in the future is worth much more then a couple of minutes more on the ice. Even though he plays in a pro league in CZ the NHL is a different kind of beast, and learning from some of our veterans on how to prepare themselfs for games and the practising with world class players should make his eventual ascend into full time NHL player much easier. Hopefully he will take his experience from this october with him and go back and dominate in the CZ league and be preparing to be a mainstay of the NYR team for the next decade. For him this should be like a last hands on experience work for a guy in the last year of high school, exiting, new, and hopefully gets some pointers on what is expecting him and be expected by him in the future.


For ADA having some games in the season with very low TOI is no issue either. If it becomes a end him to HWP for some weeks, and maybe let Graves/pionk/Beargloves fill the spot to get some feeling of what it is to be a pro on the highest level.
 
nevesis said:
Benoit Allaire seemed to think the 1st period against Toronto was a complete breakdown of the team in front of Hank, and not his fault.

It’s amazing how some fans aren’t able to actually see the reality of what actually happens in a game.
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What would truly be amazing would be Allaire saying Hank played poorly.
 
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