Monthly News Thread (11/1 - 11/30)

[DenisSamson3]

So any mention about the Joey style's controversy? Don't know if it was mentioned in another thread. Tweet seems a bit contradictory.

 

[SeidoN]

So any mention about the Joey style's controversy? Don't know if it was mentioned in another thread. Tweet seems a bit contradictory.

whats contradictory about it? he made remarks he shouldnt have and got fired

 

[DenisSamson3]

whats contradictory about it? he made remarks he shouldnt have and got fired

My bad. I got mixed up with the way condone was worded. It sounded like they were allowing it, then not allowing it, leading to supporting their decision 100%. So a grammar mess up on my part.

 

[BonMorrison]

100% should've been fired for that, good on them.

 

[The Gongshow]

What happened to Joey Styles? Far too lazy to look it up myself

 

[The Gongshow]

Which is exactly why it will be fantastic. Their friendship is just so genuine and beautiful. The heel turn is going to be such a hard pill to swallow and it is going to.be fantastic.

I hope when it happens its in front of a hot crowd too, they react accordingly. It would be a bummer if when she finally turns the crowd didn't care or react. This kind of stuff kills moments for me sometimes

 

[Pinkfloyd]

What happened to Joey Styles? Far too lazy to look it up myself

Made a grabbing joke.

 

[ColePens]

It seriously was a dumb ass comment. It wasn't worked in to needing to be said or anything. Literally just said out of spite and was disturbing.

 

[BonMorrison]

It seriously was a dumb ass comment. It wasn't worked in to needing to be said or anything. Literally just said out of spite and was disturbing.

And even worse he said it to another female colleague, I believe.

 

[Kimi]

And even worse he said it to another female colleague, I believe.

Yup. And was also directly told not to make a joke like that on the show, then did anyway.

 

[Emperoreddy]

2 hour kickoff for SS so we have a six hour show in store, not counting the 2 hours for Takeover the night before.

That is just insane.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

2 hour kickoff for SS so we have a six hour show in store, not counting the 2 hours for Takeover the night before.

That is just insane.

Watching that stuff is a breeze on the Network. I would hate to be live at one of these events but preshow as a background watch is fine for me.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

When will they realize that the majority of people hate six hour ppvs?

 

[Scandale du Jour]

When will they realize that the majority of people hate six hour ppvs?

Vince thinks people are interested in Nia Jax and Roman Reigns, so, my answer to your question would be: No.

 

[DenisSamson3]

Joey styles apologizes.

Friday night, I panicked on camera during the live broadcast of Evolve 72 on FloSlam when I realized that heel manager, Stokely Hathaway and I would be doing our promo at ringside and not in the ring with ring announcer, Joanna Rose as I had anticipated.

I told Joanna before the show that during my promo with her and Stokely in the ring, I was going to ask her about English tailoring so we could compare my suit with Stokely Hathaway's suit.

I had no idea what to say when Stokely Hathaway and I were at ringside about to trade promos and I didn't have Joanna with us to ask about English tailoring.

I panicked and I did exactly what Gabe Sapolsky told me not to do earlier in the week and made a political joke. The joke included a partial quote from the President-Elect that was meant to mock him and then, in-turn, my scripted nemesis, Stokely Hathaway.

I started the joke and stopped quoting the President-Elect without using the offensive word.

Again, I did not utter the offensive word.

I then turned to Stokely Hathaway and said "the word that I will not use, brings me to you."

As the veteran, I should have walked through the promo segment with Stokely Hathaway and Joanna Rose before the event so that there was no possibility of me putting myself in that position.

Gabe was justifiably furious at me and thought that I had endangered his relationship with FloSports.

After the event, I looked Gabe in the eye, apologized to him, and as not as to put him in the awkward position of having to fire someone he has known for 20 years, told him to fire me publicly and then shook his hand.

I apologized to Joanna who said she said she wasn't upset because she knew it was a joke about the President-Elect. It didn't matter if she was upset or not, therefore I apologized to her again, repeatedly.

I apologized to Jeremy Botter, the representative from FloSlam who was at the event, and he wasn't upset. It didn't matter if he was upset or not, therefore I apologized to him again, repeatedly. I also told him that Gabe and EVOLVE had no knowledge of what I was going to say and my actions should not be held against EVOLVE.

I apologized to the locker room and the wrestlers weren't upset. It didn't matter if they were upset, therefore I apologized to the wrestlers again, repeatedly.

While apologizing to the wrestlers, I saw that Timothy Thatcher obviously had a very serious concussion.

Timothy Thatcher's main event opponent, Drew Gulak also recognized that it was a very serious concussion and said that Timothy needed to go to the hospital.

I went to the hospital with Timothy and Larry Dallas. Gabe arrived at the hospital shorty after we did. We were cordial to each other, because I had already apologized to him and he had already fired me publicly. All that we were rightly concerned about by that point was Timothy Thatcher's condition.

Larry and I stayed at the hospital with Timothy until he was released at 1:30 AM into Larry's care to recover at Larry's home in NY until he is well enough to fly home to California.

While at the hospital watching Timothy struggle to regain his memory of what happened and even remember my name, I made the decision to stay quiet about EVOLVE 72 until today so as not to take attention away from EVOLVE on FloSlam on Sunday night.

In summary, I panicked on a live broadcast, ad-libbed by telling bad joke, apologized to Gabe, told him to publicly fire me to protect himself and then apologized sincerely and repeatedly to everybody involved including Joanna Rose, Jeremy Botter from FloSlam and the wrestlers in the EVOLVE locker room.

In conclusion, I'd like to thank FloSlam for editing out the segment from the EVOLVE 72 replay on FloSlam so fans can enjoy the historic event forever without it being marred.

Joey styles

 

[iamjs]

I see that he mentioned repeatedly that he told his boss to fire him, but it doesn't actually say if he was fired.

 

[DenisSamson3]

Another one.

The events of the last few days have been just cause to take a look at the state of professional wrestling. The art form that I love, and have dedicated my entire adult life to, is embarrassingly behind the times. It is beholden to outdated tenets that threaten to render it...obsolete at worst, and a punchline at best.

I know there are others, influential and celebrated, that imagine pro-wrestling to be a bubble in which the social norms from a bygone era are still relevant and valid. At CHIKARA, we rail against them, and those ideals, with everything we make. It is one thing to speak, to voice an opinion. It is one thing to call for change, to wish for change, to imagine how that change might come about. It is another thing to make it. At CHIKARA, we make it happen. It doesn’t matter to us in the least how many people show up to see it, or how many people recognize it for what it is. Our mantra is not about critical acclaim or pats on the back: “We believe pro-wrestling should be fun. That’s why we make it for everyone.”

Effective today, we are terminating our relationship with Joey Styles. Effective today, we are instituting a zero tolerance policy for misogynistic, racist, and/or homophobic speech, written or verbal, whether it’s directed toward our cast, our crew, or our patrons. This is the shape of CHIKARA.

To all that craft and shape pro-wrestling, we must fully understand this: the patrons of our art form demand more of us. It is to them - those that empower us to create the larger-than-life spectacle of professional wrestling - that we are beholden. Not to an archaic sub-culture made up of turn-of-the-last-century carny values.

The time for us to do away with antiquated and insulting vocabulary, like the term “mark,” is right now.

The time for us to relinquish any last vestige of power we’ve given to outmoded wrestling rhetoric is right now.

The time for us to draw a line in the sand, and to say this is where we stand on equality and integration in our art form, is right now.

The patrons of our amazing art form deserve not just our respect, but our thoughtful presence of mind in 2016 and beyond. We owe nothing to “the business.” The people our antecedents called “marks” are not handing us their dollars because they fail to understand what it is we truly make - they support us in spite of it. They come because they know our kind of live entertainment is a viable art form, not some midway hustle. They come for an inclusive experience where they can be bolstered by a passionate community of like-minded fans.

At CHIKARA, we love pro-wrestling every bit as much as our fans do. We love it so much, we want it to change. Let’s take a step toward a world where we need not be subject to any type of hate speech, and that the only violence we witness is of the neatly choreographed variety.

-MQ

 

[DenisSamson3]

 

[GKJ]

Never felt 'mark' was a condescending term, but that's something to consider.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Never felt 'mark' was a condescending term, but that's something to consider.

In and of itself it isn't but generally within the contexts that people in the business use it, it's meant to be condescending.

 

[Dr Pepper]

If Conor ends up in WWE, does that mean that the whole Twitter feud between him and half the roster was a work?

Or has that already been proven?

 

[M.C.G. 31]

If Conor ends up in WWE, does that mean that the whole Twitter feud between him and half the roster was a work?

Or has that already been proven?

Conor's a businessman. He knows how to get himself out there. He knows saying stuff like that will be big if ever went to WWE. The thing is, WWE may not be able to afford him. He's the biggest draw in sports and is in such demand that he can realistically make a claim for having a stake in the UFC and not automatically make people laugh.

 

[Emperoreddy]

HHH is pushing hard for an appearance, but Conor is on top of the UFC world. WWE has nothing for him.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

HHH is pushing hard for an appearance, but Conor is on top of the UFC world. WWE has nothing for him.

That, and Conor's going to have a child in the first half of 2017. He's had 4 fights in the past 11 months. I think he's going to take some time off. Maybe one more fight vs. Diaz again for the belt, but I think he may be serious when he says he's going to take some time off with a child coming and the fact that he wants to be paid what he's worth.

 

[Sheppy]

I just read that Vader has congestive heart failure and that he has two years to live. So sad...

Put this man in the HOF. He deserves it.