Management Montgomery fired - Sacco named interim coach Sacco - Blues hire Monty

PlayMakers

Registered User
Aug 9, 2004
26,020
28,321
Medfield, MA
So what is Sacco?

Cassidy was tough on players. Monty was supposedly soft on players.

Sacco has had a lot of time to study at the feet of the masters. Julien, Cassidy and I guess Monty's record breaking season. What's he going to be? What's he going to change? What's his stamp?

Edit: I just looked up his history. He's been a head coach for 6 professional seasons, he missed the playoffs 5 times and lost in round 1 the other time.
 

LouJersey

Registered User
Jun 29, 2002
69,493
46,023
At the Cross
youtu.be
Tell me where Felger is wrong? Hell, Marchand even came out and made some not so subtle comments at the start of camp and has reiterated that he will not discuss his contract status in the media. Can't get more confirmation than that.

Swayman has changed a lot in the past few years and not for the better and I will leave it at that. @DKH can back me up if need be.
Bruins started it telling Keefe he was looking for "10 million" Captain neds to get this **** together, he's certainly no 33 or 37
 
  • Wow
Reactions: Gordoff

22Brad Park

Registered User
Nov 23, 2008
48,118
27,539
Calgary AB
So what is Sacco?

Cassidy was tough on players. Monty was supposedly soft on players.

Sacco has had a lot of time to study at the feet of the masters. Julien, Cassidy and I guess Monty's record breaking season. What's he going to be? What's he going to change? What's his stamp?
He was running pk and that was struggling.
 

BruinDust

Registered User
Aug 2, 2005
25,515
24,755
Also apparently it's Jeremy Swayman's fault Pastrnak doesn't show up for half the games.

Letting Blue Jacket forwards part the Red Sea and walk right down the middle of the ice. Also Swayman's fault apparently. Charlie Coyle backchecking like he's in a non-contact beer league. Also Swayman's fault. Guys wide open for one-tees in the slot. You guessed it. Jeremy Swayman.

Doesn't think it's about the money, but the way he handled it, his attitude and his priorities.

Fwiw.

I thought the line from players is each of them understand it's a business. Geez, what would they of thought of a guy who actually held out into the season?

Honestly if their are guys who look at Swayman differently because of how that contract negotiation went, that's on them not Swayman. Those players need to grow up and be professionals.

Back to the coaching change. The best thing I can say about it is this. The last coaching change I cared this little about was when MOC canned Ftorek late in 2003 and took over the bench himself. That 2003 team was terrible (although not on the level of this year's team) and I didn't think MOC taking over was going to change anything. And it didn't.

Same thing here. They should of shown Sacco the door years ago. I don't expect much. Maybe a couple more wins here over the next 9 games against weaker opponents. The end result (a playoff DNQ) won't change.

They should of fired Sweeney, Bradley, Bonvie and Neely at minimum.
 

DKH

Worst Poster/Awful Takes
Feb 27, 2002
76,797
57,973
Tell me where Felger is wrong? Hell, Marchand even came out and made some not so subtle comments at the start of camp and has reiterated that he will not discuss his contract status in the media. Can't get more confirmation than that.

Swayman has changed a lot in the past few years and not for the better and I will leave it at that. @DKH can back me up if need be.
I’m technically not retired but collecting a large pension but in the witness protection program and can no longer divulge anything that could harm anyone

Sway lost me I’ll leave it at that
 

Lord Ahriman

Registered User
Oct 21, 2009
6,770
2,105
Felger killing Swayman for the Bruins struggles. "I'd trade Swayman right now. The problem is nobody else wants that contract."

He's citing 2 different articles saying Swayman has lost friends in the room, citing Monty who said he won't have many friends left if he doesn't turn things around (implying he's lost the respect of his teammates) and citing Swayman himself who last night said the biggest thing he lost in his hold out was the guys in the room.

Doesn't think it's about the money, but the way he handled it, his attitude and his priorities.

Fwiw.

I do think it's one of the problems, no question. His attitude was totally against the one build by Chara, Bergeron, Krejci etc.. Imo, Sweeney did handle awfully the situation: he should never trade Linus with no contract agreement, not to mention the atrocious return.
 

Over the volcano

Registered User
Mar 10, 2006
35,298
20,849
Watertown
Felger killing Swayman for the Bruins struggles. "I'd trade Swayman right now. The problem is nobody else wants that contract."

He's citing 2 different articles saying Swayman has lost friends in the room, citing Monty who said he won't have many friends left if he doesn't turn things around (implying he's lost the respect of his teammates) and citing Swayman himself who last night said the biggest thing he lost in his hold out was the guys in the room.

Doesn't think it's about the money, but the way he handled it, his attitude and his priorities.

Fwiw.
I think everyone and their blind dog saw that coming.

Wish Monty the best. He seemed like a great dude, but I don’t think he was the guy the Bruins needed.

They need a guy who’s a little more… rigid?
He did fine when they were stacked and could do no wrong.

Seems like a good guy and I wish him the best. He's just the wrong spot at the wrong time for what they need and what he can bring.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PlayMakers

LouJersey

Registered User
Jun 29, 2002
69,493
46,023
At the Cross
youtu.be
Maybe they know who the players respond to and how. I mean you said it, they've known him for 10 years. The fact he outlasted Cassidy and Montgomery speaks to what the players think of him.

It's the right call IMO. There will be a time when they can open up a full on search for the next guy and maybe it ends up being him, but in the short term now they need stability not more chaos.

He's that guy for interim

As for the trade talk there's not much a desperate team can do, if they fall out of the hunt then maybe its another story.
Team on paper to me was 110 points, but I'm a homer. They HAVE to be better under Sacco, right?
 

Alicat

HFBoards Sponsor
Sponsor
Jul 26, 2005
89,845
102,660
Norman, OK
Bruins started it telling Keefe he was looking for "10 million"
It has been reported that Swayman's ask was unreasonably high and $10 million is not far fetched. Swayman started the pissing match in the media and the Bruins finally had enough of the BS and called him out on it.

People want to shit all over the Bruins when it comes to contracts but the way Swayman handled everything was immature and unprofessional.
 

JEM28

Registered User
Nov 24, 2008
6,081
4,365
Connecticut
3rd coach this core has quit on. Sweet.
They're not looking much like a true core at this point.

Bergy, Krejci, Chara, Tuuka = core; i.e. bedrock, foundation

Marchand, Pasta, McAvoy, Sway = ???

Key players who were looked to to become the new core and for 1 reason or another aren't getting there.

Hope Sacco succeeds in turning them around, but kind of fear the known commodity might get tossed under the bus by this group yet again.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mick Riddleton

Blitzkrug

Registered User
Sep 17, 2013
27,460
9,321
Winnipeg
I posted my thoughts in another place but i'll just copy/paste;

Jim Montgomery is a good, perhaps even great coach. Was doing a great job in Dallas before his demons got the better of him. He was beloved in St. Louis an an assistant. He did great in Boston helping them reach highs not before seen in this sport. Even last year he took a pretty meh roster to within a few points of the president's trophy. I suspect his success will continue wherever he gets his next job and wish him nothing but the best.

Is it Jim Montgomery's fault Don Sweeney is objectively a moron? Absolutely not. Sweeney took a roster that was already thin at wing and somehow made it worse letting DeBrusk go and assuming the 34 bottom 6 forwards on this roster could make up for it. Their stars are all playing like shit, the adds they made haven't done shit, and their new 8+ million dollar goalie has played like anything but.

It is however, his fault that he completely lost the room. When your go to answer is "i have no answers" for stuff the media asks you regarding scheme/system, that's usually a bad sign. Something had to give and as the saying goes, you can't fire the players no matter how much all of us would like to shoot Zadorov into the sun.

That is now the 3rd coach Don Sweeney has fired. Logic says Don, and by extension Cam Neely's asses are now (or at least should be) on the hot seat.

This time next year Monty is probably the head coach of Montreal and hopefully Sweeney/Neely are in the unemployment line.

Edit: Joe Sacco also fixes nothing, so enjoy that.
 

LouJersey

Registered User
Jun 29, 2002
69,493
46,023
At the Cross
youtu.be
It has been reported that Swayman's ask was unreasonably high and $10 million is not far fetched. Swayman started the pissing match in the media and the Bruins finally had enough of the BS and called him out on it.

People want to shit all over the Bruins when it comes to contracts but the way Swayman handled everything was immature and unprofessional.
Again the Bruins started it in the media, everything else was defense by Swayman and then the Bruins, Hakuna Matada.

If the captain is holding that against him and allowing players to have hard feelings towards him in the locker room, well he's a terrible captain then
 

Over the volcano

Registered User
Mar 10, 2006
35,298
20,849
Watertown
So what is Sacco?

Cassidy was tough on players. Monty was supposedly soft on players.

Sacco has had a lot of time to study at the feet of the masters. Julien, Cassidy and I guess Monty's record breaking season. What's he going to be? What's he going to change? What's his stamp?

Edit: I just looked up his history. He's been a head coach for 6 professional seasons, he missed the playoffs 5 times and lost in round 1 the other time.
We'll find out. But important to know that that head coaching experience came a decade ago and before he worked under Julien, Cassidy and Montgomery.

If this were a full time, not interim, choice I might have some issues. But as it is he's the best option IMO.
 

Avs44

Registered User
May 16, 2011
21,889
10,678
So what is Sacco?

Cassidy was tough on players. Monty was supposedly soft on players.

Sacco has had a lot of time to study at the feet of the masters. Julien, Cassidy and I guess Monty's record breaking season. What's he going to be? What's he going to change? What's his stamp?

Edit: I just looked up his history. He's been a head coach for 6 professional seasons, he missed the playoffs 5 times and lost in round 1 the other time.
I hope for your guys' sake that he basically relearned absolutely everything, because the last time he was coach he was an appalling menace. His goto excuse after every loss was 'well, whatcha want me to say, we didn't start the game on time' to the point that it's still a meme over on the Avs' board. If he doesn't turn your season around there's good news, though, because I'm sure we've got lots of 'Joe Sacco, tank commander' memes left over from a decade ago buried somewhere in the archives of HF.
 

Over the volcano

Registered User
Mar 10, 2006
35,298
20,849
Watertown
Team on paper to me was 110 points, but I'm a homer. They HAVE to be better under Sacco, right?
It's heavy lifting - getting all the new bodies into a cohesive system and approach- but you got to think it'll be easier with a guy the team leaders know and can count on at least.

I'm thinking he won't feel like he needs to prove anything or over think it. He'll eep it simple and focused. But maybe that's wishful thinking.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gordoff

Filthy Dangles

Registered User*
Sponsor
Oct 23, 2014
29,937
42,383
I know Jim had alcohol issues in past, DUI, rehab, Stars firing believe was related to alcohol

This seems like it’s purely hockey related? Noting extra curricular?
 

Blitzkrug

Registered User
Sep 17, 2013
27,460
9,321
Winnipeg
That series collapses against panthers couple of years back with that elite team of the century was too much too overcome. That was a coaching issue for sure. I wanted to monty to turn it around but the team quit on him or he was lost in the woods. Not sure which one it is. Team on paper spells playoffs to me.
Was it thought? Reminder the Bruins had a lead late in game 6 and led 3-2 with a under a minute left in game 7.

It's not like the Bruins haven't shit themselves in key moments prior to this under different coaches.
 

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad