Management Montgomery fired - Sacco named interim coach Sacco - Blues hire Monty

SPLBRUIN

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Coaching gigs are like cartons of milk, they all have expiry dates.

Thanks and best of luck, Jim.

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Exactly, and in both cases where Julien and Cassidy were let go the team showed substantial immediate improvement, it's just the nature of this sport. In Monty's case it was clearly time for a change, not a fan of Sacco but let's see what happens.
 
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Blitzkrug

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1. He sucks

2. He coached in Colorado, he sucked there.

3. he sucks

4. Did i mention he sucks?

5. Don't let this bulletpoint distract you from the fact that the Golden State Warriors blew a 3-1 lead in 2016...also Joe Sacco sucks.
 

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I'm not seeing a "massive" number of flaws with Bruce Cassidy. Give me a break.


Yep. Jay Leach has made zero impact. Teams we're beating down the door for Joe Sacco either.

Cassidy's final seasons here? Yes.

Players under bus to preserve his image
Afraid to change
Afraid to call time out
Afraid to have players play tough
Inability/unwillingness to develop youth
Not able to show emotion or call out officials

Cassidy had to go. He did better than Montgomery however all things considered.

Bruins need to find the next one and it is certainly not Sacco.
 

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To be optimistic, coaches learn from their mistakes and firings and so Sacco MIGHT be ready to be a good coach. He might have some new ideas that Monty didn't like. We have to wait and see. If we see the same dud effort next game we will know it was not at all on the coaching. If they play well, well then they obviously had no interest in being coached by Monty any longer for whatever reason. That's how sports goes.

If this fails badly I think Sweeney will be fired. Not sure what happens to hero Cam. Probably nothing. If this fails badly it likely signals rebuild and I can't see Sweeney being left in charge of that but who knows.
 

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Cassidy's final seasons here? Yes.

Players under bus to preserve his image
Afraid to change
Afraid to call time out
Afraid to have players play tough
Inability/unwillingness to develop youth
Not able to show emotion or call out officials

Cassidy had to go. He did better than Montgomery however all things considered.

Bruins need to find the next one and it is certainly not Sacco.

@neelynugs suggested David Carle and while I don't know much about Carle's coaching style or how his teams play, that's the sort of coach I'd like to see them pursue after Sacco is canned in the spring. Young, fresh minds with likely more modern and relevant views on the game. I'd like to see the same mind-set applied to whomever replaces Sweeney and Co. whenever that time comes.

Time to move past former players and coaches from the Dead Puck Era in decision making positions.
 

Bradely

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IMO Monty publicly made management mistakes. Monty's body language and post-game comments were not inspiring and/or could give confidence that he had solutions to the Bruins' problems and the body language of the players and the absence of pleasure was/is in my opinion a sign of discomfort in the locker room.

Firing the coach was IMO a no brainer.

That said, how everything will go from now will be interesting.
 

UncleRico

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I seriously doubt the average coaching tenure averages much above 3 years, if at all. I could be wrong though.

10 coaches were hired the same offseason as him. 2 have been fired, one retired because he was turning 70.

The majority of the coaches remained with their team still and most have done much worse than Montgomery.

This doesn’t even include the 5 other coaches who were hired 1+ years before montgomery.

Sure, coaches have a short shelf life. At the same time Montgomery didnt deserve to be one of the first few fired from the 10 coaches hired in the 2022 offseason.

The league has a short shelf life for coaches. It’s extremely short around here.
 
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Not sure if I ever shared this story here but my bro in law lives in Florida and early 90's went to bar and two Bruins were there, Cam and Don. He talked to them for a bit and then Cam told him to beat it lol

I just read this to my wife and she turned and corroborated it to an extent.
Re. Cam "he's an A-hole, I met him twice and both times it was the same attitude."
 
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Bradely

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10 coaches were hired the same offseason as him. 2 have been fired, one retired because he was turning 70.

The majority of the coaches remained with their team still and most have done much worse than Montgomery.

This doesn’t even include the 5 other coaches who were hired 1+ years before montgomery.

Sure, coaches have a short shelf life. At the same time Montgomery didnt deserve to be one of the first few fired from the 10 coaches hired in the 2022 offseason.

The league has a short shelf life for coaches. It’s extremely short around here.

I haven't done an exhaustive investigation, but according to Mr. Paine, in 2020 an NHL coach’s average tenure is just 2.4 years.
 
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10 coaches were hired the same offseason as him. 2 have been fired, one retired because he was turning 70.

The majority of the coaches remained with their team still and most have done much worse than Montgomery.

This doesn’t even include the 5 other coaches who were hired 1+ years before montgomery.

Sure, coaches have a short shelf life. At the same time Montgomery didnt deserve to be one of the first few fired from the 10 coaches hired in the 2022 offseason.

The league has a short shelf life for coaches. It’s extremely short around here.
They’ve had 3 coaches in 17.5 years.
 

UncleRico

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I haven't done an exhaustive investigation, but according to Mr. Paine, in 2020 an NHL coach’s average tenure is just 2.4 years.

And the winningest coach in the NHL since being hired in 2022 didn’t even make it to the league average in Boston.

They’ve had 3 coaches in 17.5 years.

And Sweeney has fired all three of them in the past 7 years.
 

UncleRico

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If people are pointing out shelf life for coaches.
Let’s point out the shelf life for GMs and our 4th longest tenured GM in the league who has only built one team that’s won multiple playoff rounds in 9 seasons.
 

Johnnyduke

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Cassidy's final seasons here? Yes.

Players under bus to preserve his image
Afraid to change
Afraid to call time out
Afraid to have players play tough
Inability/unwillingness to develop youth
Not able to show emotion or call out officials

Cassidy had to go. He did better than Montgomery however all things considered.

Bruins need to find the next one and it is certainly not Sacco.
Bruce Cassidy didn't show emotion or call out refs? Nonsense. And as we have seen with Jim Montgomery as well it's not an inability to develop youth. The youth given to these coaches stinks. The prospect pipeline is embarrassing. I don't even know what "afraid to have players play tough" even means. You can stick by it was time for him to go but I'm not buying much of what you're selling.
 

Bradely

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And the winningest coach in the NHL since being hired in 2022 didn’t even make it to the league average in Boston.



And Sweeney has fired all three of them in the past 7 years.
I did not like Monty's work this year.
On Julien he was on a 10 years run coaching the Bruins, missing the PO twice the years before. I hated that they fired CJ.
Cassidy was on a 7 years run after 8 years in Providence. I really never understood the firing of Cassidy.

But saying Sweeney is a coach killer ain't correct.
 

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