Value of: Monahan
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We have to wait for the report from somebody else saying he won't be signing in Winnipeg, then we'll know it's a done deal.
MardyBum
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Just heard Sean Reynolds on a podcast saying he heard JG is whispering in Monahan's ear to go to Columbus. I imagine he's going to test FA and see where the best deal/fit is. I'd be surprised if he re-signed before July 1st unless Winnipeg massively overpays.
Habs Halifax
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Monahan is a 3C or you can play him as a power winger in the top 6. From his time with the Habs, he didn't complain one bit by playing both center and wing. He's really good on the forecheck, faceoffs, and in front of the net. He's a strong boy with decent skill. Skating holds him back but in tight spaces, he does create a lot of havoc.
Jets traded for him as a 2C solution and then faced the speedy Avs. Bad combo. Monahan is an alright 2C in the regular season but not in the playoffs against a legit contender like the Avs. If the Jets had a better 2C and was able to move Monahan to wing, I think they get better results.
The dilemma the Jets have is if not Monahan, who? Who can they get to fill that 2C hole? It's not easy to find so this might be the reason why they resign Monahan. I'm pretty sure they agree with you but what are they left with options if they let him walk?
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Monahan is best played anywhere but on the Jets…that trade was a waste of a 1st round pick. He did absolutely nothing for WPG and solved nothing in our needs.
Chevy should have been fired the second he made that trade
Habs Halifax
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He performed well in the regular season for the Jets. You faced the skilled and speedy Avs bud. You might have a different opinion today if you faced someone else in the 1st round and beat them.
Totally understand what you are saying but after you traded Dubois, it left a 2C hole. That might take a long time to fill. Until then, Monahan might be a good signing based on the options
Who would you try to get to play 2C, if you let Monahan walk?
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He did nothing for us in the regular season..we were playoff bound before we got him, so anything he did adds no value. As for the playoffs, he sucks.
Anyone would be better than Monahan…I’d get a dead raccoon over wasting money on Monahan…it’s stupid to waste money on a player you don’t need just to do it.
Habs Halifax
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24 pts with 13 goals in 34 game is not nothing.
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Monahan did nothing to help us get into the playoffs…we were already there…he added absolutely nothing to the team…he actually subtracted from the Jets because we wasted money on him instead of getting a proper 2C that could have helped.
You like him so much, take him back…give us our pick back and you can have your player back
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Jared Dunn
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Their power play was 22nd in the league before Monahan and top 5 when he came there, absolutely had an impact
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I would think he'll take lower AAV to try to get more years honestly given his injury history. 4x4ish
Hunter368
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Monahan has his good points and his bad points:
- Good FO
- Good PP
- He's a good 3C
- Meh defensively
- Soft as butter
- Slow as hell
- He's not a top 6 center on a good playoff team
- He was a ghost in the playoffs
He's exactly what I thought he was, would never want to sign him long term, but he's an ok bridge solution ideally in a lesser role on the 3rd line only (& PP specialist). I would sign him short term cheap (2-3 years at 4 million example), but if he wants big money or long term see yah bc he's not worth big money or long term IMO.
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Chevy has to be careful here...as everyone knows the Jets are not a preferred destination but they cant afford to over commit to this player.
Jets need to ADD speed and toughness. Monahan brings neither of those skillsets.
Jets need to ADD speed and toughness. Monahan brings neither of those skillsets.
MardyBum
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Anyone who watched the Jets PP would 100% attribute that more to Vilardi. Monahan was definitely an upgrade on the PP, but Vilardi down low was the key to the improvement.
Firing Brad Lauer is the biggest key for next season though
100% all of this.
Habs Halifax
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From a bottom 10 team with cap space, maybe. From a contender who would really need him at 3C... Probably $3-$4M range. Cap has increased but those top contenders are still tight to the cap.
Term is another thing to ponder. He finally played a full season but his past injuries are still fresh on GM minds. Still young but doubt teams go deeper than 3 or 4 years.
Avs or Bruins are my guess. 3 years at $4.5M and he might get a decent NTC list of teams.
Jared Dunn
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Fair, undeniably though he's very effective in that bumper position. Good 3C option for a team with really solid two way centers in the top sixAnyone who watched the Jets PP would 100% attribute that more to Vilardi. Monahan was definitely an upgrade on the PP, but Vilardi down low was the key to the improvement.
Firing Brad Lauer is the biggest key for next season though
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Aside from being willing to sign him to any term or money, I agree with most of this
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There's a lot of people here on HFboard that are incapable of having a nuanced view of things.
Everything has to be black or white, good or bad. A pretty Manichean way of looking at things...
Anyway, Monahan was good for us in MTL. In terms of hockey I mean.
He was versatile, very smart and strong on the forecheck for us.
But he's slow, isn't the guy that will crunch opponents with bid body checks (he seems to prefer using physicality to win puck battles) and won't wow you with spectacular 1 vs 1 play.
He wasn't up to par in the playoffs against Colorado?
Maybe, like someone has already mentioned, the matchup wasn't optimal for him. But if Winnipeg would've had another opponent, less speedy but more physical, maybe he would've been more useful. Maybe.
Who knows...
Anyway, I liked him here but as in stockmarket, when you had big gains twice with a single stock, don't push the needle and switch to another one ..
I hope Hughes will think the same...
Everything has to be black or white, good or bad. A pretty Manichean way of looking at things...
Anyway, Monahan was good for us in MTL. In terms of hockey I mean.
He was versatile, very smart and strong on the forecheck for us.
But he's slow, isn't the guy that will crunch opponents with bid body checks (he seems to prefer using physicality to win puck battles) and won't wow you with spectacular 1 vs 1 play.
He wasn't up to par in the playoffs against Colorado?
Maybe, like someone has already mentioned, the matchup wasn't optimal for him. But if Winnipeg would've had another opponent, less speedy but more physical, maybe he would've been more useful. Maybe.
Who knows...
Anyway, I liked him here but as in stockmarket, when you had big gains twice with a single stock, don't push the needle and switch to another one ..
I hope Hughes will think the same...
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pth2
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3x5M was my guesstimate, but I doubt he gets that from a contender, I think his injury history will scare off a lot of suitors, in particular those already cutting costs to respect the cap. But a borderline playoff team looking for a boost, say like Detroit, might see him as an option.
I suspect a return to Winnipeg is in the cards, frankly, it would make sense for all involved.
winnipegger
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Footspeed is atrocious and he doesn't have the hands to make up for it. I don't think a team is winning anything with him in the top 6. Hope the jets move on or sign him for depth.
