TSN: MLSE's Tanenbaum promises a Stanley Cup

[alliuk12]

Expected Cup / 60 years = 1 ?

Christ almighty I’ll be 131 years old do they know how hard it will be on my bloody knees to climb those stairs to see that last game. Because I’m not going until they get that bloody cup

 

[NotNotALeafsFan]

Does it work like that?? I promise I’m gonna win the lottery!

 

[TheRumble]

Depends how the "cleaning" is taking place.

incompetent, easily satisfied, stupid BS -> Out the door
competent, people who strive to be better, intelligent folks -> In the door

Quite frankly, whats happening under shanahan/dubas is actually ballard era...

except fans were frustrated with ballard because he was a cheap bastard and no team results
now fans are frustrated with shanahan/dubas because no cap left and no team results

under both ballard and shanahan/dubas leafs were a league wide JOKE

What has really changed?

During the Ballard era there was a literal pedophile ring that operated with the Leafs and there are accounts of Ballard having sexually abused at least one child.

You: A team losing in the playoffs is like the Harold Ballard era.

 

[PromisedLand]

During the Ballard era there was a literal pedophile ring that operated with the Leafs and there are accounts of Ballard having sexually abused at least one child.

You: A team losing in the playoffs is like the Harold Ballard era.

I am talking about on ice results not other crap that happened. If you are always going to compare all the other crap then there is no management team that is ever going to be as bad as the ballard era.

the go to move it seems is always to bring up ballard era to defend the colossal failure that has been the dubas era. Oh look dubas' incompetence is nothing compared to ballard era. Yes that is true if you take everything into account.

But lets seprate the other BS that happened and then talk about on ice hockey results.

It is the go to move and that you are satisfied with how dubas has ruined everything? is accountability not a thing anymore? Excusing dubas' incompetence along with Keefe's incompetence by saying....

oh look ballard era. I mean really? Or for that matter the Burke era -> context: teachers pension plan did not want a rebuild and wanted playoffs at all cost to get the revenue.


Dubas was given full freedom to do whatever he wanted and results are there for everyone to see. Especially, since dubas became a GM when team was on the rise, plenty of cap space, plenty of assets and look where we are....

Accountability should not be swept under the rug by using past rhetoric without context

 

[Lightsol]

What can someone say? "Maple Leaf minority owner optimistic despite not having won a round. Hahaha"? How would that affect anyone else besides Tanenbaum? Where is this potential?

He clearly should have come out sounding like some of the posters around here. "This f***ing team sucks! I think everyone needs to be fired before we waste more years, but I was overruled by the other morons on the board! So don't blame me for anything!"

 

[Lightsol]

Comparing Shanny/Dubas to the Ballard Era in anything other than playoff success is ludicrous. That ex-con treated the Leafs like a toy thing and really embarassed the Leafs organization with his shenanigans. From refusing deals that would help the Leafs (Dionne wanted to come here and he refused) to painting TigerCats at centre ice to putting transparent player names on the back of jerseys (and these aren't the most egregious doings--he wanted coach Neilson to come out with a paper bag on his head). Fun times but also very embarassing for a franchise.

ANYONE who compares anything from the post-Ballard era to the 80's is too young to have experienced the Ballard era.

 

[Lightsol]

Not to mention those god awful 80s teams managed to win a couple of rounds in the playoffs. Yes I know 16 of 21 teams made the playoffs before the SJ/Tampa/Ottawa expansion.

Apparently you forgot that all the Leafs had to do to make the playoffs in that era was beat out one team in a division that had the worst period of hcckey in Detroit's history and terrible Chicago and Minnesota teams.

Fun fact: the Leafs won two rounds, one in '86 and one in '87. In both years, they were 10+ games under .500. And the teams they ended up losing to in the second round were slightly over .500 teams. Just as a quick hint as to how bad the Norris was at that time, the Leafs in '86 made the playoffs with 57 points. FIFTY-SEVEN.

 

[hullsy47]

Apparently you forgot that all the Leafs had to do to make the playoffs in that era was beat out one team in a division that had the worst period of hcckey in Detroit's history and terrible Chicago and Minnesota teams.

Fun fact: the Leafs won two rounds, one in '86 and one in '87. In both years, they were 10+ games under .500. And the teams they ended up losing to in the second round were slightly over .500 teams. Just as a quick hint as to how bad the Norris was at that time, the Leafs in '86 made the playoffs with 57 points. FIFTY-SEVEN.

Kiss of the death for dubas and company
Problem is TANNENBAUM has many friends that know hockey outside of the leafs front office
Who know what domi and company are telling him
I'm really surprised he hasn't endored dubas for an extension

 

[Deuce Awesome]

Shut the hell up you bumbling old fool. Remember one of the conditions of Burke signing here? Yeah, it was that you went back to your C suite and stayed out of things you knew nothing about.

(sorry just really dislike this guy)

Apparently you forgot that all the Leafs had to do to make the playoffs in that era was beat out one team in a division that had the worst period of hcckey in Detroit's history and terrible Chicago and Minnesota teams.

Fun fact: the Leafs won two rounds, one in '86 and one in '87. In both years, they were 10+ games under .500. And the teams they ended up losing to in the second round were slightly over .500 teams. Just as a quick hint as to how bad the Norris was at that time, the Leafs in '86 made the playoffs with 57 points. FIFTY-SEVEN.

Thats actually what I loved about the old NHL. You could sneak into the playoffs and cause havoc. Polar opposite of baseball where you had to be the best to play the best.

I know arguments can be made for both methods, but Ive always been a fan of the underdog knocking off the cocky "champions", and you just don't see that as much anymore in the NHL.

 

[CDN24]

Shut the hell up you bumbling old fool. Remember one of the conditions of Burke signing here? Yeah, it was that you went back to your C suite and stayed out of things you knew nothing about.

(sorry just really dislike this guy)


Thats actually what I loved about the old NHL. You could sneak into the playoffs and cause havoc. Polar opposite of baseball where you had to be the best to play the best.

I know arguments can be made for both methods, but Ive always been a fan of the underdog knocking off the cocky "champions", and you just don't see that as much anymore in the NHL.

Well last year 2 regular season division champs got knocked off by the 4 seeds in The North and East. In fact the final 4 were composed of one #2 seed, One #3 seed and two #4 seeds.

Before we say but Covid lets go back to 2019 where the 4 division leaders in Tampa , Caps, Preds, and Flames were all knocked out by wildcard teams in round one.

Maybe we don't see the defending champ knocked off in round 1 very often but regular season division winners fall as often as they ever did.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Kiss of the death for dubas and company
Problem is TANNENBAUM has many friends that know hockey outside of the leafs front office
Who know what domi and company are telling him
I'm really surprised he hasn't endored dubas for an extension

Dubie was extended til end of Shanny's contract last summer .. Larry said it himself at sponsors year end mtg .. he is extremely happy with Shanny and Dubie .. nothing in Leafland is changing til end of 2024/25 season .. on top of that there is no way he could qualify for his mortgage on his new digs in LP without a contract either

 

[justashadowof]

If the Leafs sign free agent Max Domi this summer we'll know that Tanenbaum is probably exerting his outside influence on the team. It seems like a possibility. There's an argument to be made that the player would be a fit hockey-wise.