News Article: MLB To Raleigh

[Navin R Slavin]

Of course. I mean the positions aren’t here anymore. The leadership of the company isn’t local. That makes a big, big difference in how the company behaves.

Not really true. Red Hat's engineering leadership moved to Boston in 2005. I know, because I was asked to move there and declined. The rest of the leadership is still in NC, including plenty of engineering teams. Not much has changed.

But that's one company, and a company that's at the tail end of its growth trajectory. The point is that all of the talent that used to leave RH for the West Coast now just stays and works remotely for FAANG, second tier companies like Cisco and IBM, and a whole slew of startups, all of which have been forced to accept remote work as the cost of retaining high end talent.

The local pipeline is strong and getting stronger, even in a downturn.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Not really true. Red Hat's engineering leadership moved to Boston in 2005. I know, because I was asked to move there and declined. The rest of the leadership is still in NC, including plenty of engineering teams. Not much has changed.

It’s definitely true. I’m not talking about their engineering leadership, I’m talking about their actual C-suite. 7 of their 11 C-level execs have shifted from Raleigh to Boston within the past few years.

Example of what that means at ground level: Their IT workforce development program being relocated from NC community colleges to Boston community colleges. Separately, over half a billion dollars’ worth of financial investment going to Boston University instead of NC State. The relocation of those programs has long term downstream impacts for the Triangle… that’s a lot of workers who won’t get that step ahead in skill development, a lot of researchers who won’t run their programs here, a lot of startups that get started in Boston instead of Raleigh. And that’s just within the past couple of years. Their investment focus here will continue to decline going forward.

But that's one company, and a company that's at the tail end of its growth trajectory. The point is that all of the talent that used to leave RH for the West Coast now just stays and works remotely for FAANG, second tier companies like Cisco and IBM, and a whole slew of startups, all of which have been forced to accept remote work as the cost of retaining high end talent.

The local pipeline is strong and getting stronger, even in a downturn.

Indeed, I’m not suggesting otherwise. All I said was I wouldn’t take anything for granted in the tech industry which is notorious for running hot and then imploding overnight. It’s an unstable industry by design.

 

[Bub]

The REAL question here is, assuming that we're not talking about a Durham Bulls promotion to MLB, what will the team name be?

 

[SlavinAway]

The REAL question here is, assuming that we're not talking about a Durham Bulls promotion to MLB, what will the team name be?

I vote for the Raleigh Hippos.

 

[Bub]

I vote for the Raleigh Hippos.

How about the Carolina BBQs? Think of the variety of theme nights....mmm....

 

[raynman]

The REAL question here is, assuming that we're not talking about a Durham Bulls promotion to MLB, what will the team name be?

Something pig related because Dundon is so cheap it would allow for him to use the same Stormy costume

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Example of what that means at ground level: Their IT workforce development program being relocated from NC community colleges to Boston community colleges. Separately, over half a billion dollars’ worth of financial investment going to Boston University instead of NC State. The relocation of those programs has long term downstream impacts for the Triangle… that’s a lot of workers who won’t get that step ahead in skill development, a lot of researchers who won’t run their programs here, a lot of startups that get started in Boston instead of Raleigh. And that’s just within the past couple of years. Their investment focus here will continue to decline going forward.

I can tell you in excruciatingly intimate detail why this isn't the real story, and how NCSU and RH never *actually* worked together -- but that's a much longer story.

 

[Svechhammer]

The REAL question here is, assuming that we're not talking about a Durham Bulls promotion to MLB, what will the team name be?

Carolina Hurricanes Baseball Team

Logo would be

or

 

[tarheelhockey]

I can tell you in excruciatingly intimate detail why this isn't the real story, and how NCSU and RH never *actually* worked together -- but that's a much longer story.

I can tell you in excruciatingly intimate detail that I was on the NCSU team that was working toward a new partnership deal within the past 3 years until the C-suite power shift to Boston scuttled it. And we were told directly by our counterparts that as a consequence of the leadership transition they will be redirecting resources from Raleigh based partners to Boston based partners. I can tell you that NCSU has backed way off attempts to partner with the company as a result, and that is reflected in the headlines about major investments in Boston University and Massachusetts-based community colleges and no headlines about major investments in Triangle area colleges like there were pre-2020.

 

[raynman]

I can tell you in excruciatingly intimate detail why this isn't the real story, and how NCSU and RH never *actually* worked together -- but that's a much longer story.

I can tell you in excruciatingly intimate detail that I was on the NCSU team that was working toward a new partnership deal within the past 3 years until the C-suite power shift to Boston scuttled it. And we were told directly by our counterparts that as a consequence of the leadership transition they will be redirecting resources from Raleigh based partners to Boston based partners. I can tell you that NCSU has backed way off attempts to partner with the company as a result, and that is reflected in the headlines about major investments in Boston University and Massachusetts-based community colleges and no headlines about major investments in Triangle area colleges like there were pre-2020.

Sheesh you guys are gonna be so intimate you may as well just get it over with and do it already.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Sheesh you guys are gonna be so intimate you may as well just get it over with and do it already.

Please not in excruciating detail.

 

[Svechhammer]

Don't mind me, I'm gonna be a good little Falwell guy and sit here and watch from the corner.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Bojangles parking lot time

 

[DaveG]

don't they have public indecency laws still on the books for that kind of thing?

 

[Svechhammer]

Ok this is a funny one



Carolina Copperheads and the logo is of a rat snake

 

[HisIceness]

I have no idea who is right and who is wrong, but I swear I remember IBM obliterated Red Hat like 2019, some of you (perhaps employees?) weren't happy about the transaction, which of course is completely understandable.

 

[AD Skinner]

Ok this is a funny one



Carolina Copperheads and the logo is of a rat snake

Remember the Carolina Cobras indoor football team? That was a good time

 

[raynman]

Ok this is a funny one



Carolina Copperheads and the logo is of a rat snake

Oh shit the Hognose snake and then you can still use Stormy

 

[MinJaBen]

Ok this is a funny one



Carolina Copperheads and the logo is of a rat snake

The North Carolina Pop-Fly Traps

 

[HisIceness]

Remember the Carolina Cobras indoor football team? That was a good time

I went to their games at PNC and the Charlotte Coliseum. Used to have a hat.

 

[cptjeff]

The REAL question here is, assuming that we're not talking about a Durham Bulls promotion to MLB, what will the team name be?

Raleigh Walters. Mascot named "Sir" frequently seen in video features in risque positions with a female mascot named Queen Liz.

 

[Chrispy]

Go for tradition. Link to the past.

Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks.

 

[LostInaLostWorld]

Raleigh Capitals - various incantations over the years but last played in Devereaux Meadows 50s and 60s. The original Crash Davis played in the 40s.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I can tell you in excruciatingly intimate detail that I was on the NCSU team that was working toward a new partnership deal within the past 3 years until the C-suite power shift to Boston scuttled it.

That wasn't what scuttled it. That was what you were told scuttled it. The NCSU/RH relationship was doomed the day Matt Szulik left. But again: maybe over beers sometime.

 

[DaveG]

Raleigh Walters. Mascot named "Sir" frequently seen in video features in risque positions with a female mascot named Queen Liz.