OT: MLB Thread XXII: The Mets Are Actually Undefeated In Wins

[BMOK33]

Never forget that from 2011-2014, Clayton Kershaw won 3 Cy Youngs and was only stopped from sweeping all of those years by RA Dickey.

If I remember right Kershaw was injured most of that season. There were still people arguing for awhile that despite only having like 110 innings that year he should have won it because his numbers were insane but no way was that occurring. Kershaw is clearly no longer the same pitcher and I’m wondering if Bumgarner has peaked as well as both have come off injuries and not looked spectacular this year. This makes you realize why the Mets are at least entertaining the idea of trading deGrom and Syndergaard. The new format should be try to ensure the bullpen and offense are good when your starters are 23-28 then trade them and rebuild. The next group of Kay, Dunn, Szapucki, Peterson the Mets should do exactly this. Try to build the pen/offense from 2021-2025 then sell off, rinse and repeat.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

If I remember right Kershaw was injured most of that season. There were still people arguing for awhile that despite only having like 110 innings that year he should have won it because his numbers were insane but no way was that occurring. Kershaw is clearly no longer the same pitcher and I’m wondering if Bumgarner has peaked as well as both have come off injuries and not looked spectacular this year. This makes you realize why the Mets are at least entertaining the idea of trading deGrom and Syndergaard. The new format should be try to ensure the bullpen and offense are good when your starters are 23-28 then trade them and rebuild. The next group of Kay, Dunn, Szapucki, Peterson the Mets should do exactly this. Try to build the pen/offense from 2021-2025 then sell off, rinse and repeat.

You're thinking of 2016, not 2012 like Bob is referring to.

 

[nyr2k2]

only 4 more years of Chris below-replacement Davis @ 21 million....

Yeah, Jesus.

I could definitely see Davis rebounding somewhat next year--he's lost his patience and his approach sucks, and maybe an offseason to clear his head will help. I mean he's no going to hit 50 homers or justify that deal, but I could see him maybe getting back to 2 WAR or something. I have nothing to base this on, by the way.

 

[Bob Richards]

Chris Davis being merely bad or replacement level would make it an awful contract.

But if he's now this -3 WAR pace player then we are talking a generational all-timer. Two Orioles executives should have to duel over a fire pit to attempt a penance.

 

[darko]

no sanchez judge or didi...no **** the offense is gonna struggle

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good whinge.

 

[darko]

Chris Davis' baseball reminds me of Bob Richards' posting.

 

[RangerBlues]

CC's post game was ruff.

 

[romba]

Yes, the Yankees have reasons for a faltering offense now. But their offense would go quiet too often before the injuries hit, and happened in the playoffs last year as well so there’s plenty of precedent to go off. Good pitching beats good hitting, the other guys get paid too, it’s all true, but I expected better consistency and still do, especially once everyone comes back.

 

[Machinehead]

Yes, the Yankees have reasons for a faltering offense now. But their offense would go quiet too often before the injuries hit, and happened in the playoffs last year as well so there’s plenty of precedent to go off.

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good whinge.

 

[darko]

Giancarlo '300' Stanton

 

[Machinehead]

Kay pretty much admitted it on air Tuesday: this team can't do MLB offense without 3+ homers.

Of course he tried to somehow spin it positively because that's his job but it was still fun hearing about how helpless this lineup is for three innings.

 

[Machinehead]

Luke Voit is lit

 

[Cassano]

Kay pretty much admitted it on air Tuesday: this team can't do MLB offense without 3+ homers.

Of course he tried to somehow spin it positively because that's his job but it was still fun hearing about how helpless this lineup is for three innings.

This team can't manufacture runs in the right games it seems.

 

[Machinehead]

That's outstanding baserunning by Hicks

 

[mrmovies779]

Luke Voit?Is he this year's Shane Spencer story?

 

[New York RKY]

You’re telling me we got to get rid of Chasen Shreve AND get Luke Voit!?!? What a deal.

 

[Irishguy42]

Like a phoenix, Luke Voit is rising from the ashes that was Greg Bird.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

I still think barring a couple of bad starts that deGrom will win it. Scherzer will get hurt by the fact he’s won it a couple of times already and now the fact his team isn’t going to be playing meaningful games in September will hurt him too. Initially I thought that would get him a few more votes. Nola’s team will but I think Nola is too far behind on the strikeouts and ERA so he loses to one or the other either way. The vote in the end may resemble 2012 where everyone thought it would be tight with Dickey, Gio and Cueto and it wasn’t even close at all

I think he'll win it based on "the Steve Carlton rule."

 

[mrmovies779]

Why put Betances in to close when he struggled in the past doing it and we have Britton?This 1 is on Boone.

 

[mrmovies779]

And now we are losing.You blew this 1 Boone

 

[mrmovies779]

It's clear as day Betances gets flustered when asked to close.

 

[mrmovies779]

I'm still shocked Boone decides to switch Britton and Betances in a must win game with the Sox losing again.Can't wait to hear his reasoning for this move.

 

[mrmovies779]

Sox tied up the White Sox lol.

 

[Machinehead]

This is why Betances isn't a closer

 

[mrmovies779]

Crushing loss and all on Boone.Just hope this doesn't shake Betances confidence.