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Crease said:
I'm trying to be patient with Soto but there is basis for concern. Showing up to the introductory press conference with a gut. Dogging it in RF and down the first base line. His general care-free demeanor. Where did the Soto Shuffle go? I'll continue to be patient because we really have no choice, but he hasn't had a Mets moment yet and still doesn't feel like part of the team.
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I'd like to read one of those pieces where one of the beat writers talk to opposing team scouts anonymously for their honest takes on what's happening with him, stuff they wouldn't say on record.
 
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Crease said:
I'm trying to be patient with Soto but there is basis for concern. Showing up to the introductory press conference with a gut. Dogging it in RF and down the first base line. His general care-free demeanor. Where did the Soto Shuffle go? I'll continue to be patient because we really have no choice, but he hasn't had a Mets moment yet and still doesn't feel like part of the team.
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People talk about the $765 million contract but to be fair he is only being paid $126.9 million this year so is it fair to expect him to always give 100%?
 
Eh I remember when Lindor and several others on the team were giving the thumbs-down sign after getting hits partly to antagonize the fans. Not only was he playing poorly, it was looking like things might get ugly. And within a season or two he became a beloved figure.

There's nothing to suggest a 26-year-old superstar in Juan Soto is in decline. There's always an adjustment period, and whether he shows it or not I'm sure the contract is weighing on him. But like with Lindor, even if you have a "bad" first season, you still have plenty of runway to turn it around.
 
Soto should've run out that groundball but shame on Mets fans falling for the talk radio propaganda. You have the brain of a goldfish if you cant remember Beltran and Lindor's acclimation to the Mets. Its been a month and a half. Yanks can have the series win at home in May. We did sweep them all 4 games last year.
 
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It reminds me a bit of A-Rod.

When we got A-Rod (I was young) it was like man, I don't care, you're A-Rod. We brought you here to be the best. You better hit .600.

And then he won a couple of MVP's and even then it was a vibe of like "yeah, but this guy is annoying sometimes."

And then, we all got old, and A-Rod came and went, and now looking back, it's like "man, I miss A-Rod."

Nobody is ever going to justify the stupid contracts they give out, but someday you look around and realize most of the players who get them can't be replicated.
 
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yeah like being petty for a second Soto going 1 for 10 was funny but the idea that he's overnight a lazy slob and not still a generational driver of offense is just insanity. He will get there and the Mets will have a first class 1-3 in the league. it's going to happen.
 
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I do think that there was some pressing with Soto early on but he hasn't even been bad.

Lindor legit sucked his first year with the Mets. Soto has been Soto, his BABIP is just .240.

There are no red or even yellow flags with anything under the hood with him, everything looks exactly as it normally does (if not better than usual) except for the end result - He'll be fine.

Vientos otoh I'd be slightly worried about. I know some of the heavy data people cautioned against him after his break out season but most of the public data looked promising for him.

Not so much thus far this year. The nerds may have nailed this one.
 
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GoAwayPanarin said:
I do think that there was some pressing with Soto early on but he hasn't even been bad.

Lindor legit sucked his first year with the Mets. Soto has been Soto, his BABIP is just .240.
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Yeah it's way too early to toot horns about Soto being "bad"

Like you said, Lindor was awful his first year, and now he's a god amongst men and would get a bronze statue outside Citi Field if the Mets in it all.
 
Lol Alonso hits one high off the green monster and is thrown out at 2nd. Not the first time this has happened in Fenway, but that's just the way it's going for the Mets
 
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Machinehead said:
A Mets fan comes in here depressed about Soto, and all the Yankees fans are like "nah, you're good."

WHY DO WE HAVE TO BE TOXIC IN EVERY OTHER THREAD???!!

Is baseball just a nice sport?
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The obvious no direct competition is it. The Jets/Giants threads are never like that either, but that's out of sheer incompetence from both front offices and coaches.

Also outside of the ignorant people in RF yelling f*** Juan Soto all weekend, I don't think that many Yankee fans care. They shouldn't really care that much anyway.

If the Mets won 2 more games in the NLCS last year, this thread might be a little unhinged.
 
A lot of talk today that Soto wanted to stay with the Yanks but his family wanted him to go for the Mets. I was disappointed in his decision at first but now I think it worked out for the best for both teams.
 
The ball Alonso hit off the green monster was the hardest hit ball at 24 deg launch angle that didn't leave the park in the stat cast era
 
JimmyG89 said:
The obvious no direct competition is it. The Jets/Giants threads are never like that either, but that's out of sheer incompetence from both front offices and coaches.

Also outside of the ignorant people in RF yelling f*** Juan Soto all weekend, I don't think that many Yankee fans care. They shouldn't really care that much anyway.

If the Mets won 2 more games in the NLCS last year, this thread might be a little unhinged.
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No one cares to hear the "back in my day" shit from me, but back when I was an admin/mod I regularly closed the NFL thread down. It was awfully toxic and things could get really, really nasty. I would also thread ban any and everyone including guys I'm quite close with now.

I had to do the same thing with the MLB thread once or twice but it was not nearly as bad.

That was something that helped many years ago, and another big thing that helped is the fact that a lot of the guys that used to really instigate just don't post here anymore (I feel like I can name Son of Steinbrenner because he's long gone, LOL).
 
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I think with Soto he's going to be fine. He's been walked a ton, has hit quite a few bullets but unfortunately bad luck they are right at people who catch it. He has a nice personality always in a good joking mood. The criticism about him not hustling is valid, he should hustle. But he has a bright future ahead of him as a met. Looking forward to a great season. Just a little routine slump here we're seeing. Honestly I think the biggest thing we're seeing right now that's a cause for concern is Vientos cant field well at 3rd base and Baty seems to shine there so just make Baty the 3rd baseman. And Alonso cant throw out anyone, sails the ball in 2 games consecutively. I feel bad for Alonso because the throws he's sailed he should have made and he knows that. Just tough luck for him. Gotta just hope the mets snap outta that funk...
 
nyr2k2 said:
No one cares to hear the "back in my day" shit from me, but back when I was an admin/mod I regularly closed the NFL thread down. It was awfully toxic and things could get really, really nasty. I would also thread ban any and everyone including guys I'm quite close with now.

I had to do the same thing with the MLB thread once or twice but it was not nearly as bad.

That was something that helped many years ago, and another big thing that helped is the fact that a lot of the guys that used to really instigate just don't post here anymore (I feel like I can name Son of Steinbrenner because he's long gone, LOL).
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Remember MSGPlaceToBe?

That dude hated Gaborik in a way the guys who hate particular players now could only dream.
 
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Phillies take over NL East lead.

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I realize the sensationalism drives clicks/views but the Soto discourse is hilarious because it was so predictable

The same people who wrote fluff pieces about Soto and tried (poorly) to make the case that he didn't sign for the money are now the same ones saying that he looks off, unwilling to interact with his teammates and unhappy.

It wasn't about "family values" when he signed over the winter (it was always about the money and its okay to admit that) and he isn't unhappy now (aside from being frustrated that his game isn't in sync, but that would have happened anywhere.) I also some how very much doubt that he was intimidated by being booed in a regular season game in May when he's basically shown that he is very much THAT guy in October. He had a rough series, no biggie. It won't be the last time he has one and every single player since the beginning of time has had a bunch of them.

He'll get hot and they'll rip off 8 straight and we'll hear some other nonsense about how he should be eligible for sainthood and then come back to this same shit when he goes cold in a series against the Phillies or Braves and try to paint him as baseball's Beelzebub.

He's taken the heat off of other guys who are more deserving of it though so I guess thats a win?
 
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nyr2k2 said:
No one cares to hear the "back in my day" shit from me, but back when I was an admin/mod I regularly closed the NFL thread down. It was awfully toxic and things could get really, really nasty. I would also thread ban any and everyone including guys I'm quite close with now.

I had to do the same thing with the MLB thread once or twice but it was not nearly as bad.

That was something that helped many years ago, and another big thing that helped is the fact that a lot of the guys that used to really instigate just don't post here anymore (I feel like I can name Son of Steinbrenner because he's long gone, LOL).
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Baseball season is 162 games. How mad can you get in May unless yer the Rockies kind of bad. I ramp up my baseball fandom after the all-star break so it peaks in the fall.
 
Takeahnase said:
Baseball season is 162 games. How mad can you get in May unless yer the Rockies kind of bad. I ramp up my baseball fandom after the all-star break so it peaks in the fall.
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I mean, the Orioles should've been at least a 90 win team and they're pretty much out of the playoffs for the rest of the year (it's their own fault and I am enjoying every second of kicking the shitbirds while they're down).

The Braves seem to be an exception to this
 
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