OT: MLB Thread 2024

[NickyFotiu]

I read that Alonzo is speaking with the Mets and the Yanks which makes sense. If you are the Yanks and you feel that Alonzo will sign with the Mets do you try to push the price up? Or is that too petty?

 

[Raspewtin]

I read that Alonzo is speaking with the Mets and the Yanks which makes sense. If you are the Yanks and you feel that Alonzo will sign with the Mets do you try to push the price up? Or is that too petty?

no. waste of time.

Alonso shouldn't be anywhere near here anyway. Need infield defense and Alonso is among the worst at 1B

 

[Bob Richards]

I read that Alonzo is speaking with the Mets and the Yanks which makes sense. If you are the Yanks and you feel that Alonzo will sign with the Mets do you try to push the price up? Or is that too petty?

Probably not because that's putting in energy that could be better spent elsewhere.

Also you don't want to push your luck and accidentally end up signing Pete Alonso lol.

 

[NickyFotiu]

no. waste of time.

Alonso shouldn't be anywhere near here anyway. Need infield defense and Alonso is among the worst at 1B

I'm all for defense but would like his power as well. Talk is Bellinger and Bergmen may be targets as well.

 

[I Eat Crow]

I hate the guy but Bregman is a much better fit for the Yankees than Alonso.

 

[Raspewtin]

besides the initial disgust i'd feel having that cheating f*** on this team, he'd be a massive boost defensively. offensively ehhhh and the contract will be horrible but i'd learn to tolerate him

as currently constructed we'd have a whole year of pitching around Judge with no real big threat. I don't know what you do about that besides pray that VOlpe, Wells, and Jasson are better than league average offensively.

 

[Guyute]

besides the initial disgust i'd feel having that cheating f*** on this team, he'd be a massive boost defensively. offensively ehhhh and the contract will be horrible but i'd learn to tolerate him

as currently constructed we'd have a whole year of pitching around Judge with no real big threat. I don't know what you do about that besides pray that VOlpe, Wells, and Jasson are better than league average offensively.

He doesn’t strike out 130+ times every year, so that’s a giant positive for the Yankees. It seems like being really good at striking out is what Cashman covets most in a player.

 

[Machinehead]

It's amazing how entrenched MLB is in analytics and yet useless sacks of shit like Anthony Santander will command big money.

 

[will1066]

He doesn’t strike out 130+ times every year, so that’s a giant positive for the Yankees. It seems like being really good at striking out is what Cashman covets most in a player.

You're referring to Alonso, right?

 

[Guyute]

You're referring to Alonso, right?

We were talking about Bregman, but I'm sure the Yankees will sign Alonso knowing Cashman loves batters that strikeout

 

[Raspewtin]

Bellinger to the Yankees. He's pricey but got a 3 WAR player for nothing. Cool

I expect nothing less than his 2019 year

 

[Machinehead]

If we take that Soto money and just use it to buy like, a whole team, it's not the worst outcome.

 

[NickyFotiu]

If we take that Soto money and just use it to buy like, a whole team, it's not the worst outcome.

The Rangers should buy the Oilers so we get McDavid, Leo, and company

 

[Ruggs225]

The Rangers should buy the Oilers so we get McDavid, Leo, and company

Yeah but we would bench them to give kreider and zib More time on the PP so their feelings arent hurt.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Yeah but we would bench them to give kreider and zib More time on the PP so their feelings arent hurt.

Funny. Not true but funny

 

[Raspewtin]

If we take that Soto money and just use it to buy like, a whole team, it's not the worst outcome.

assuming Hill comes back the yankees have upgraded their pitching to top 5 in the league which is great. pushing Rodon down to #3 starter (#4? Gil?) is a great move and having a setup-close duo of Weaver-Williams is unmatched in the league.

their lack of pop is not good though. without Soto Judge will get pitched around a lot and we need to upgrade Torres too, who's leadoff offense will be very hard to replicate from what's available.

the Yankees, currently, are projected to have the third best lineup in WAR behind the Dodgers and Braves. Missing a 1B and 3B (Oswaldo/Peraza/DJL/Rice are project to be platooning there). There's a lot of room for improvement but I just don't know what you do here that's financially and futurely smart.

Alonso is a non starter imo, will be too expensive, he sucks eggs defensively, and we'll lose more picks (lost one signing Fried). I'd blow my brains out if we bring that useless f*** Santander here at 1B where he's never even played. Walker is old and wants a long deal and would cost another pick but he's my ideal target IMO. I've talked myself into liking Bregman, relatively, but he would be a pretty rough offensive option here. He can't hit for shit in YS and his walk rate torpedoed this year.

If we went the Bregman/Walker route, which would really hurt in the long term, that's probably the best chance the Yankees have at fielding a complete team and winning the WS. They'd have a top 5 defensive infield in the majors and still have a team of above average batters, if Volpe and Wells can add a little more. I'm not totally in love with it but a better option has yet to present itself

Also convince Sasaki that NY is actually a small market and bring him over <3

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Walker 3/60 to Houston. Seems more than fair really

He's no spring chicken but should still be good for the 1st couple years.

It's amazing how entrenched MLB is in analytics and yet useless sacks of shit like Anthony Santander will command big money.

That doesn't even seem that bad for him?

He's a flawed player but he's still a good one who hits for extra bases. Calling him a useless sack of shit is kinda wild....

 

[Raspewtin]

Yankees are probably done in FA. The last time a team signed two qualified players (already signed one in Fried) was 2013, and it was the Yankees lol

However i'd be pretty annoyed if they went the Goldschmidt/Santana route. This is not the year to dumpster dive and I still have nightmares about Josh Donaldson.

They probably need to swing an uncomfortable trade just for a complete infield.

 

[Machinehead]

Walker 3/60 to Houston. Seems more than fair really

He's no spring chicken but should still be good for the 1st couple years.





That doesn't even seem that bad for him?

He's a flawed player but he's still a good one who hits for extra bases. Calling him a useless sack of shit is kinda wild....

.307 career OBP lol

 

[Jack Hanson]

Im hoping the Mets re-sign Alonso, feel like his bat will complement Soto's plus he's the polar bear.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

.307 career OBP lol

And an extra base hit machine....aren't you an analytics guy? That more than makes up for the slightlly below league average obp.

it's weird, he's up there near top of pitcher seen per plate appearenace but he just doesn't walk. But at least he gives good at bats and can wear down a pitcher.

He's certainly a better player than Cody Bellinger at this point. (yes i know they'd have to give him a big-ish contract to get him and aren't saying they should; and as i showed, his ask 100M isn't even that much).

your're too stuck on his obp to not see he's still a quality player

 

[Machinehead]

And an extra base hit machine....aren't you an analytics guy? That more than makes up for the slightlly below league average obp.

it's weird, he's up there near top of pitcher seen per plate appearenace but he just doesn't walk. But at least he gives good at bats and can wear down a pitcher.

He's certainly a better player than Cody Bellinger at this point. (yes i know they'd have to give him a big-ish contract to get him and aren't saying they should; and as i showed, his ask 100M isn't even that much).

your're too stuck on his obp to not see he's still a quality player

Santander and Bellinger have played the same number of seasons and Bellinger has more than doubled him up in WAR.

If you had a shortstop or a CF with Santander's stat line, you give him $500m. Guys who don't play prime positions (and he's a horrible RF!) and also don't get on base don't provide that much value and age like cheese.

 

[McRanger92]

Alonso pretending he isn't dying to come back to the Mets, so Boras can do his dog and pony show. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Pete will be right back on the trade market after next season if he signs with Seattle or Chicago.

Return to Queens and chase glory with the team that drafted and loves you, Pete.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Santander and Bellinger have played the same number of seasons and Bellinger has more than doubled him up in WAR.

If you had a shortstop or a CF with Santander's stat line, you give him $500m. Guys who don't play prime positions (and he's a horrible RF!) and also don't get on base don't provide that much value and age like cheese.

That's pretty disingenous. Most of that is from an MVP season from Bellinger 6 years ago and those days are over he is a clearly different player at this point in his career. Hasn't sniffed 8 wins since then (1.5, -1.7, 1.4, 4.4, 2.2 WAR) and if anything the 4.4 win season from '23 looks like the abberation.

Bellinger is way more of a wild card at this point than Santander.

I mean with all else being equal (same contract and cost to acquire etc) think you easily take Santander over him.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Ill give you Bellinger is a better fit for Yankees, assuming he can play a quality CF everyday which lets Judge slight back to RF.

Santander doesn't have that versatility or athleticism but he's the safer bet offensively and probably the better choice in a vacuum or on a team that needs a RFer.