Speculation: Mittlestadt on his way out from Colorado?

[HaNotsri]

Last year and earlier this year he looked damn good. The way he was playing along the board, his vision to make THAT pass that went in the net, his ability to slow down the play and his takeaways was fun to watch. I thought that dude will easily be better than Kadri but somehow everything he did well feels like he can't even do that anymore. It's mistakes after mistakes. Also looks even worse with good linemates. That line with him, Parise and Lehkonen was were he played the best.

Mitts has been improving year to year and I was sure he had his best seasons in front of him. As a Buffalo fan I'd want him back 100%.

 

[Chainshot]

So I wonder if both teams want a do-over on the Moddlestadt-Byram trade.

As a Sabre fan, Byram's been fine. So no, this is now the Avs issue.

 

[hockeyGod]

Kadri for Mittelstadt with the flames retaining 1M. Get the band back together for a few more runs.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Someone can school me if I'm wrong but I always though Mittlestadt was a good quality 3C and a stretch as a 2C. To be able to bring him in was solid because good young centers are hard to find but is his overall performance fairly representative of who he is as a player? I'm not sure it's the fault of Mittlestadt being iffy at 2C when he was already iffy at 2C to begin with.

I don't think Mittlestadt has anything you'd want for your 3rd line centre, unless you're a team like Florida who has that shutdown centre in the top 6 role, mainly 1st line.

Faceoffs this year is at 41%.
Not physical with his 16 hits and his 6 blocked shots.
Has a 48-10 giveaway to takeaway ratio
And leads his team with a -16, 8 more than 2nd place.

This may be odd, but he's a capable NHLer, just likely not on a good team.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Meh. He's been bad and absolutely needs to be better but I'd still lean towards this just being a slump and he'll find his way again soon.


Confidence is a hell of a thing and that's what Mitts needs the most of right now.

Someone can school me if I'm wrong but I always though Mittlestadt was a good quality 3C and a stretch as a 2C. To be able to bring him in was solid because good young centers are hard to find but is his overall performance fairly representative of who he is as a player? I'm not sure it's the fault of Mittlestadt being iffy at 2C when he was already iffy at 2C to begin with.

There isn't a 3C in the league that produces ~60 points a year.


He is 100% a 2C. He's just in the midst of a bad slump.

 

[57special]

Someone can school me if I'm wrong but I always though Mittlestadt was a good quality 3C and a stretch as a 2C. To be able to bring him in was solid because good young centers are hard to find but is his overall performance fairly representative of who he is as a player? I'm not sure it's the fault of Mittlestadt being iffy at 2C when he was already iffy at 2C to begin with.

When he's playing well there are not 60+ NHL C's better than him, at least offensively. He's got the skills to be a 2C.

 

[TageGod]

Let me know if Rantanen excels as 2C so we can give him a max deal in FA.

I want no part of Mitts back.

 

[kerrabria]

Someone can school me if I'm wrong but I always though Mittlestadt was a good quality 3C and a stretch as a 2C. To be able to bring him in was solid because good young centers are hard to find but is his overall performance fairly representative of who he is as a player? I'm not sure it's the fault of Mittlestadt being iffy at 2C when he was already iffy at 2C to begin with.

I don't think Mittlestadt has anything you'd want for your 3rd line centre, unless you're a team like Florida who has that shutdown centre in the top 6 role, mainly 1st line.

Faceoffs this year is at 41%.
Not physical with his 16 hits and his 6 blocked shots.
Has a 48-10 giveaway to takeaway ratio
And leads his team with a -16, 8 more than 2nd place.

This may be odd, but he's a capable NHLer, just likely not on a good team.

Mittelstadt is a classic example of a guy who will always find work as a Top 6er with bad teams. He has skill, but he isn't productive enough to be a contender's 2C, and he neither drives play enough nor has a sufficiently well-rounded game to play third line.
There are plenty of lottery picks who turn into these types of journeymen. Derrick Brassard, Jordan Eberle, Ryan Strome, Alex Galchenyuk, Jonathan Drouin, Dylan Strome...

 

[StewieP19]

I think He can be a 2C but this year Colorado struggle with injury and He needs to adjust a lot of time due to all players plays with him @ wings.
Colorado can use him to get an upgrade @ C position or get a top 4 D .

 

[Captain97]

Let me know if Rantanen excels as 2C so we can give him a max deal in FA.

I want no part of Mitts back.

I was gonna ask, how comfortable is Rantanen at C? Because I could see teams going after him if he excels even harder

 

[centipede2233]

i think middlestadt+ for miller makes sense for both teams.

I agree. And JT wouldn’t be the most win at all crazed guy on the team to boot!

 

[oconnor9sean]

There isn't a 3C in the league that produces ~60 points a year.

Dallas had three centers over 60 points last year

 

[kerrabria]

I was gonna ask, how comfortable is Rantanen at C? Because I could see teams going after him if he excels even harder

I have not watched enough of the Avs to say, but according to Avs fans, he's much better on the wing.
And that makes sense. Rantanen is big, physical, and smart. He's not a Taylor Hall or Phil Kessel offense-only guy who relies on speed, the rush, and hanging up ice to produce. A truly elite winger should be able to line up at C and drive play if needed. At the end of the day, they're all forwards.

 

[The Shadow]

not shocked
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[Captain Controversy]

I'm pretty sure Mitts sucked in Buffalo so....not surprising.

 

[Tahoeblue]

It seems like he might be struggling with the Avs playing a faster pace. He seems to be struggling with how much time and space he has. He looks like he’s caught in between the way a baseball player slumps when he’s in between pitches (slow on fastballs and way ahead of change ups/curves).

He has really good vision and is a pass first C, which is good and bad. If he was more of a goal scorer like Kadri, he wouldn’t be as dependent on others for points. When he’s going well, he makes an entire line better. But when he struggles, he’s a dead limb.

No idea if it's match for a deal with the Isles that could center around a UFA or two. But, you said struggling to play at a faster pace and I thought of my Isles. I truly enjoy watching your Avs and hope they go far this year.

 

[Dietpepsi]

I'm pretty sure Mitts sucked in Buffalo so....not surprising.

He didn't suck, but just wasn't worth his upcoming contract. He's a smallish forward that gets moved off the puck easy. Inconsistent in creating his own offense but at times shown flashes of promise.
Byram been good for Buffalo so wouldn't take that trade back.

 

[Bender]

He looks injured to me. He's never been a speedster but to start the season, he looked like he put the work in over the summer to get a bit faster and he was fantastic to start the year.

He had 16 points in his first 15 games played to start the season - that was no accident - and then ??? something happened and he just hasn't been the same since. A few of us Avs fans saw him take a couple of big hits in mid-november and speculated that his struggles could be a result of that though he hasn't missed any games due to injury.

 

[PunchImlach is Alive]

Inconsistency would have me skittish to ever commit to Mitts as a 2C on a contender. Disappearing for stretches isn't new for him.

 

[Volica]

The match bringing Kadri back makes a lot of sense to be honest. He has time left, but his game hasn’t fallen off at all. He’s just playing on a bad team.

Gotta think Conroy will have to look at this long and hard.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Ritchie and Mittelstadt (with retention) for Kadri and third rounder.

Aves fill the second line hole. And get a trade deadline asset to throw away for rentals to get into the wild card spot.

Flames get a high end prospect. And Mittelstadt could rebound or at the worst with retention only costs around 4 millions in cap until they can dump his as a rental in two seasons.

 

[SundherDome]

So I wonder if both teams want a do-over on the Moddlestadt-Byram trade.

Nope, Byram has been great. I would love to bring Mitts back though but not at the cost of Byram.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I'd take him back but not for Byram in what would probably be one of weirdest trades in NHL-history.

August 27, 1993 the Kings trade Marty McSorley to the Penguins for Shawn McEachern

February 15, 1994 the Penguins trade Marty McSorley and Jim Paek to the Kings for Shawn McEachern and Tomas Sandstrom

Wasn't even 6 months between the 2 trades.

 

[Uberpecker]

I'm just kinda glad that now the Avs fanbase have to endure the lowball offers for him

Seriously, the way people describe his most recent play sounds like he's dealing with some kind of injury to me.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Ritchie and Mittelstadt (with retention) for Kadri and third rounder.

Aves fill the second line hole. And get a trade deadline asset to throw away for rentals to get into the wild card spot.

Flames get a high end prospect. And Mittelstadt could rebound or at the worst with retention only costs around 4 millions in cap until they can dump his as a rental in two seasons.

This is crazy for the Avs lol.

I think something like

Mitts
Ritchie
Short term dump to make cap work

For
Kadri (1 mil retained)
Andersson

Would make a lot of sense for the Flames and Avs as a basis.