Rumor: Mittelstadt to Columbus?

[Richard88]

Agreed, a 1st is definitely not the cost

A 55 point defensively responsible center in his prime and signed for a reasonable caphit for 3 playoff runs isn't getting a 1st in this center market? Sure if you say so

 

[Coffee]

A 55 point defensively responsible center in his prime and signed for a reasonable caphit for 3 playoff runs isn't getting a 1st in this center market? Sure if you say so

not with CMac as gm

 

[Richard88]

Seravalli reported that 3 different teams are interested in Mittelstadt on Wednesday night: Boston, Calgary, and Minnesota.

Friedman also mentioned that he heard three teams interested, but named NJ, Ottawa, and Toronto.

Clearly there's a market for Mittelstadt.

not with CMac as gm

CMac got a 1st and 2nd for Newhook, you don't think he could get at least a 1st for Mittelstadt?

 

[Coffee]

Seravalli reported that 3 different teams are interested in Mittelstadt on Wednesday night: Boston, Calgary, and Minnesota.

Friedman also mentioned that he heard three teams interested, but named NJ, Ottawa, and Toronto.

Clearly there's a market for Mittelstadt.


CMac got a 1st and 2nd for Newhook, you don't think he could get at least a 1st for Mittelstadt?

I hope Canucks try to trade for him, even if it means overpaying

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

One team that may be a good fit for Mittlestadt could be Seattle. They have Stephenson, Beniers and Wright as well as Gourde who is a UFA. Mittlestadt would help one of the two younger guys with the defensive coverage and means they have the flexibility to have Stephenson on the wing for the other guy if needed.

Gourde is going to be a good pick up for playoff teams but the Avs may not see him as a 2C for them, plus he's out for a few weeks.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

Mitts is a solid 50+ point center. Responsible defensively and has great vision and passing.

It's just not going to work in Colorado. Bednar is all about speed and that's the area where Mitts can't deliver. Looks like the Avs did not do their homework and targeted the wrong type of player.

He's hit 50 points 1 time in 8 seasons.

This guy ain't worth a first rounder. CBJ have a ton of guys coming back from injury, there's no realistic spot for this player.

 

[Fjordy]

He's hit 50 points 1 time in 8 seasons.

This guy ain't worth a first rounder. CBJ have a ton of guys coming back from injury, there's no realistic spot for this player.

Technically that's true, but he had 59 points in 22-23, last season when we traded him at TDL he had 47 points in 62 games, plus he had 10 more points in Colorado after that. So that's more like two straight 55+ point seasons. I have no idea why he's not doing well in Colorado, maybe he's just not a good fit.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

He's hit 50 points 1 time in 8 seasons.

This guy ain't worth a first rounder. CBJ have a ton of guys coming back from injury, there's no realistic spot for this player.

Twice actually. 59 in 22‐23 and 57 in 23‐24.

He'll hit it in the right environment again. The passing and vision is just too good not to. Hell he is still nearly on pace for 50 in Colorado despite being a terrible fit.

 

[BKarchitect]

Twice actually. 59 in 22‐23 and 57 in 23‐24.

He'll hit it in the right environment again. The passing and vision is just too good not to. Hell he is still nearly on pace for 50 in Colorado despite being a terrible fit.

He’s had stretches where’s he’s been flat out excellent in Colorado. He was good in the playoffs last year too. He’s just fallen into the abyss. If he were 32 and not 26, I’d say “whelp, this could be it”. But he’s still pretty young and has been too good for most of the last three years outside of this single 35 game stretch for me not to think he will turn it around.

This “he sucks and only had one good season stuff” is both untrue and lazy. He was very good in 22-23, very good in 23-24, very good in the playoffs last year and was red hot to start 24-25. He’s suffering from an unbelievable drop in confidence and can’t dig out of the hole here. On a team still building, I think you’d absolutely just keep him and let him work out of it. The Avs are just out of time, options and cap to do other stuff so it’s in their best interest to move him if they can’t work him back into an appropriate role.

He will be very good again somewhere else. Not that I think the Avs can get a ton for him. But folks are weighing 35 games in a 26 year-old’s career over the previous 200 games way too much.

 

[Viqsi]

If the Avs want a prospect from CBJ as part of a bigger deal I could see Charlie Elick being the guy they target.

Manson isn't getting younger and is 1 year away from UFA, so they're going to need to find a replacement for that role soon, but have next to nothing in the pipeline at RHD.

Beyond just being a RHD, Elick is a very good skater which is obviously something that would appeal to Colorado.

They may target him but I doubt he'd be available. We don't have anyone else like him in the system, and our RHD prospect depth was just obliged to take a hit.

 

[DickSmehlik]

Honestly, any team trading for him is taking a big risk.

There is little to no reason he shouldn't be putting up big numbers with the Avs (as he did last season and the beginning of this year). Trading for him and thinking that it is going to start clicking for him on a new team is going to intrigue some dumb GM.

 

[MOGlLNY]

I think Mitts would be a good player on Boston so I’m praying that doesn’t happen. Don’t think he’s as toast on here as some posters say more than not being a fit for Colorsdo

 

[stevo61]

What would make sense based on the Waddell quote is that it's a trade like 1st + roster player for Mittelstadt, with CMac scouting them to decide which roster player he wants.

Avs don't really have a proper 4C as Kelly (who has been playing there this season) is more of a winger in truth, and Drury is playing 3C. So Kuraly would probably make the most sense. As in, something around 1st + Kuraly for Mittelstadt.

Could also see CMac wanting to include Miles Wood in an exchange for Kuraly to get out of that contract (they both have $2.5m caphits but Kuraly expires this year and Wood has 5 years left). Given what Waddell said about wanting players with term that might actually appeal to CBJ.

Danforth is another pending UFA forward who could potentially be of interest.

Yeah when he said guys with term I'm sure guys like Wood are exactly who he had in mind...

 

[dirtydanglez]

Honestly, any team trading for him is taking a big risk.

There is little to no reason he shouldn't be putting up big numbers with the Avs (as he did last season and the beginning of this year). Trading for him and thinking that it is going to start clicking for him on a new team is going to intrigue some dumb GM.

its pretty simple to understand why he's not producing. avs play a quick transition, aggressive attack the net style. middlestadt plays a maintain possession, slow down the game style. it's just not a match. i fully expect him to be a 50-60p guy elsewhere.

 

[Viqsi]

Yeah when he said guys with term I'm sure guys like Wood are exactly who he had in mind...

To be fair, we've gotten unexpectedly good results from plenty of the seemingly-washed guys Waddell has picked up, so if he does give Wood a look like that I wouldn't immediately freak out, but yeah, I don't see it either.

 

[Richard88]

Mittelstadt seems to be on his way out of Colorado, and if it's not the Leafs, Devils or Sens like Friedman mentioned, consider the Ducks an option, along with the Calgary Flames and Columbus Blue Jackets.

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Mittelstadt to Columbus for futures, and then those futures to Anaheim for Zegras. Would be quite a risk from CMac to do that but could pay off potentially

 

[Theodore450]

Avs about to finesse another team with a high pick young player being dumped.
Already won the Newhook and Barron trades

 

[lionsDen]

Yeah, Colorado is just gonna be lowballed here lock this thing up

 

[BKarchitect]

Avs about to finesse another team with a high pick young player being dumped.
Already won the Newhook and Barron trades

Casey is a far better player than Newhook or Barron. Neither of those guys had shown a third of what Mittelstadt has. They were projects. CM is a proven 55-60 point playmaking two-way 2C who has been excellent for two plus years prior to the wheels coming off with his confidence and with Bednar’s confidence in mid-November.

Much more likely the Avs are going to get taken to the cleaners here because Bednar hates him and we are out of options.

 

[Rowlet]

I hope Canucks try to trade for him, even if it means overpaying

I don't think Middlestadt is an Alvin/Rutherford guy. He's not fast enough, which is clearly their MO with recent moves.

 

[WaW]

Problem with Mitterstadt has always been that he can only do the same number of chin-ups as I can, and I'm not even in the NHL.

 

[Fraser28]

I never liked the Byram trade from their perspective.

 

[Theodore450]

Casey is a far better player than Newhook or Barron. Neither of those guys had shown a third of what Mittelstadt has. They were projects. CM is a proven 55-60 point playmaking two-way 2C who has been excellent for two plus years prior to the wheels coming off with his confidence and with Bednar’s confidence in mid-November.

Much more likely the Avs are going to get taken to the cleaners here because Bednar hates him and we are out of options.

You’re not wrong. But I also see Casey as a flawed player. Committing the the right players is what has made the avs successful

 

[Freaky Styley]

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Never been a fan of his going back to his draft year and it appears as he’s just regressed. Don’t believe he’ll ever become a player that changes my opinion of him.

Honestly, I wasn't a huge fan of his in his draft year either. That doesn't make him a terrible player.

He was great on the Avs for his first 40 games here, and in Buffalo for over a year prior to that. He got in Bednar's doghouse, and that's a hard place to get out of. He's clearly internalizing this pressure every shift- but there are still glimpses of his talent.

I have no doubt in the right situation he can be a solid 2C for someone. Plus he's only 26. In a thread on the CGY board I pointed out that statistically Mittlestadt has outperformed Kadri in their careers to date. Still lots of time for him to get his confidence back and continue his growth.