Player Discussion Mitch Marner

[ACC1224]

If Nylander does this he’s crucified by the intermission panel for 5 minutes straight. This is gutless hockey right here

Nylander has a long history of that.

 

[Shooter2x]

What about one of the Leafs best playoff performers who has yet to suit up in Style

If we had a healthy Nylander, Bruins would be lucky to see more than 5 games.

 

[Apex Predator]

Not gunna win shit in the playoffs when your 11m player, soon to be more than that becomes way worse in crunch time.

He’s not built for playoff hockey.

 

[rocketman588]

If he asks for any payraise you tell him to waive the nmc.

IMHO he needs to take a pay cut to 9.5 but that will never happen. Take the same deal you have for 8 or gtfo to Columbus because no one serious about hockey is paying him

 

[Stringer Bell]

He’s not built for playoff hockey.

Mitchell Margarine.

 

[Pi]

Not gunna win shit in the playoffs when your 11m player, soon to be more than that becomes way worse in crunch time.

I haven't liked his game through 2 games but I don't see the problem with this one at all.

He's clearly trying to gain the inside edge and try to stop the puck from getting out. It's not like he's doing this in our zone. He's doing it in the Bruins zone to try and get that puck.

 

[ACC1224]

I haven't liked his game through 2 games but I don't see the problem with this one at all.

He's clearly trying to gain the inside edge and try to stop the puck from getting out. It's not like he's doing this in our zone. He's doing it in the Bruins zone to try and get that puck.

Many players do that exact play.

 

[ryno23]

Many players do that exact play.

the problem is he does it all the time and avoids contact. If say Gilmour did it one play or Clark did it one play you can give them a pass as they took hits to make plays. Marner refuses to take a hit to make a play.

Those types of players especially at his salary kill a team and in the dressing room the grinders and guys who want to win resent a guy like that

 

[Peasy]

I haven't liked his game through 2 games but I don't see the problem with this one at all.

He's clearly trying to gain the inside edge and try to stop the puck from getting out. It's not like he's doing this in our zone. He's doing it in the Bruins zone to try and get that puck.

How does he not have inside position right there? He can just bump into McAvoy and get the puck but instead he shoulder checks, sees McAvoy and decides to bail and jump around him.

 

[Pi]

Many players do that exact play.

Yeah, I'd rather Marner play better with his stick than try to be physical when that's not his game.

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How does he not have inside position right there? He can just bump into McAvoy and get the puck but instead he shoulder checks, sees McAvoy and decides to bail and jump around him.

The puck is clearly rolling there and not flat. The best play he had in that corner was to either try and nudge it back to the D by fully extending his stick and hope it goes past McAvoy's skate/stick or do what he did.

 

[Antropovsky]

Not gunna win shit in the playoffs when your 11m player, soon to be more than that becomes way worse in crunch time.

"Make it look like you're competing" I've been saying this about Marner for years now. When it comes to the physical and dirty area, Marner avoids them but "acts like he is competing". Interesting to see a former player say the same.

 

[ULF_55]

Yeah, I'd rather Marner play better with his stick than try to be physical when that's not his game.


The puck is clearly rolling there and not flat. The best play he had in that corner was to either try and nudge it back to the D by fully extending his stick and hope it goes past McAvoy's skate/stick or do what he did.

Yeah, no reason to take a hit if you can come away with the puck.
marner isn't a big guy, so has to pick his spots.
As long as all players get the same credit, and it isn't "soft" for player X but "smart" for player Y.

 

[Peasy]

"Make it look like you're competing" I've been saying this about Marner for years now. When it comes to the physical and dirty area, Marner avoids them but "acts like he is competing". Interesting to see a former player say the same.

Completely disagree. He could have easily gotten to the puck first and protected it along the boards until support came. Instead he went around him and the bruins had an easy exit.

 

[ULF_55]

Completely disagree. He could have easily gotten to the puck first and protected it along the boards until support came. Instead he went around him and the bruins had an easy exit.

He didn't have to take a hit, but yeah it was a fail.

I wonder if he is playing with something (most players this time of season ...) as his board work is usually stronger, although not his strong point.

 

[ACC1224]

Yeah, no reason to take a hit if you can come away with the puck.
marner isn't a big guy, so has to pick his spots.
As long as all players get the same credit, and it isn't "soft" for player X but "smart" for player Y.

It's crazy how people are looking for any little perceived fault they can find.

He's obviously not 100%.

 

[Pi]

Yeah, no reason to take a hit if you can come away with the puck.
marner isn't a big guy, so has to pick his spots.
As long as all players get the same credit, and it isn't "soft" for player X but "smart" for player Y.

I think both Nylander and Marner have this tendency to avoid contact at times but for the most part they make the right calls.

I've never seen plays like this for other teams go viral. Everything a Leaf does goes viral.

How often do teams get massive hits in the playoffs. Have you seen Nylander or Marner ever get caught like that? No because they have great awareness of where everyone is on both sides.

Marner just needs to be more assertive when he has the puck and use his stick better. I am way more pissed at their effort on Pastrnak's goal than this.

We've given Boston far too many freebies. If they can clean up their game and play disciplined, this series isn't even close.

 

[Antropovsky]

Completely disagree. He could have easily gotten to the puck first and protected it along the boards until support came. Instead he went around him and the bruins had an easy exit.

Is this for me? I agree, I've never seen a player go to this extreme to avoid contact ever in my life. Marner was first on the puck, but saw a McCavoy coming and just gave him the puck and the easy exit to avoid the hit.

I've said this many times before though about Marner.

11 million dollars for a player who wants to play shinny.

Glad he got called out by a former player.

 

[arso40]

Interestingly, Keefe singled him out last night for looking good. He was much better in the second half of the game and noteworthy it was him who won the puck on the boards to clear the zone in the dying seconds. I just want to see him attack more, curling away is what they want to see. More impactful, he hasn't been awful just spotty effective.

keefes tryna give him some confidence cause hes not one to single out in a positive way im sorry....thats blatantly obvious

He needs to show up. Matthews is drawing the top defensive players from Boston, and Marner needs to find a way to get on the score sheet to make Boston pay

remember when ppl were making it seem like hes drawing the hardest matchups and still producing and willy was on the second line with less production its not soo easy away from matty huh?

 

[Madap]

Suddenly he has an injury. Played out full games max minutes leading into the PO.

Seriously. This guy has been injured for 8 straight playoffs apparently.

 

[arso40]

He’s not built for playoff hockey.

needs to hit the gym

 

[Mickey Marner]

There are much worse examples of pulling the chute.

 

[Antropovsky]

Yeah, no reason to take a hit if you can come away with the puck.
marner isn't a big guy, so has to pick his spots.
As long as all players get the same credit, and it isn't "soft" for player X but "smart" for player

One of the things I've always listed about why Marner isn't worth 11 million.

1)He lacks acceleration/elite speed
2)He lacks size and strength
3)He lacks a high end shot
4)He's a terrible leader
5)He's a winger

This play checks box 2 and 4.

 

[aingefan]

Coming off *that* injury, it’s important to manage expectations abit. So much of MM’s effectiveness is based on edge work, mobility, and shifting gears - really hard to do coming off a high ankle sprain. It’s why I’ve been leery of him killing penalties.

 

[FerrisRox]

I haven't liked his game through 2 games but I don't see the problem with this one at all.

He's clearly trying to gain the inside edge and try to stop the puck from getting out. It's not like he's doing this in our zone. He's doing it in the Bruins zone to try and get that puck.

You don't see the issue with this?

Instead of making a play for the puck - in the offensive zone - he bails out and doesn't even make an attempt; to avoid being hit, which allows McAvoy to take the puck largely uncontested and it leads to an odd-man rush the other way.

How can you possibly have no issue with that? You say he's "clearly trying to gain the inside edge" to try and stop the puck from getting out, but the only reason he Bruins even have possession to get the puck out is because Marner pulled up short and didn't even attempt to get the puck in the corner because he didn't want to get hit.

How can you be okay with this??

 

[Antropovsky]

Yeah, no reason to take a hit if you can come away with the puck.
marner isn't a big guy, so has to pick his spots.
As long as all players get the same credit, and it isn't "soft" for player X but "smart" for player Y.

...But Marner didn't come away with the puck? That exit was about as easy as it comes for Boston. All thanks to Marner. .