You thinking something doesn't make it common knowledge or true. "Your feelings about something isn't evidence", remember?
The question is whether they are compensated at a higher rate than wingers relative to impact because of their position. There is no data or evidence that suggests this is true, and it's not even what you've been looking at. The top cap hit percentages throughout the cap era feature quite a few wingers. There are numerous instances of center-winger duos signing with similar production getting identical contracts (ex. Sedins, Kane/Toews). When looking at the relationship between both post-ELC and UFA cap hit percentages and production through the 3 seasons prior to signing, there was no significant center/winger discrepancy in either sample. And while I'm not going to spend ages doing all that again, even if we do a quick test... The average starting cap hit percentage for the the 10 biggest center contracts was 3% higher than the average percentage for the top 10 winger contracts, but the average P/GP through the 3 years prior to signing for the centers was a pretty similar 2.4% higher.
"Top centers" generally refers to a wider group of high end centers than just 3. I don't know why you would think a player would need to bring more impact than 15%+ players to get 14-15%.
ChatGPT produced quite a few errors when searching for pretty basic contract and positional data, including confusing salary and cap hit. And even if something is readily available, that doesn't make it accurate. A lot of positional data is inaccurate on the official NHL website. I haven't made any assumptions about how you use AI for work. Only discussed your use of it in this discussion.
I was looking at cap hit % for position predicated upon all wingers/centres, followed by the top 100 wingers/centres. This was to do with you stating "Players get paid based on impact", which I asked about by having you post data on what "impact" represents. You didn't really provide anything. Evidence of the twins or Toews/Kane signing similar contracts isn't a wide dataset, and you know that.
"The average starting cap hit percentage for the the 10 biggest center contracts was 3% higher than the average percentage for the top 10 winger contracts, but the average P/GP through the 3 years prior to signing for the centers was a pretty similar 2.4% higher". So in other words, Centres on average are paid more than wingers. Why is this so hard for you to admit? In my world, 100 basis points is big, nevermind 300 and 240.
You've referred to Marner as a top 3 winger in the league before, which is why I chose the top 3 centres to compare. That's evident, no?
ChatGPT produced quite a few errors when? When you were using it? The functions I use take a 64 core server 30 minutes to compute, and it uses over 30 sources to cross-check and confirm data. There may have been some errors, but no where near enough to completely invalidate its findings. Guess we can agree to disagree over that.
At the end of the day Dekes, I believe Marner is worth a max of 13.5-13.6% of the cap, and maybe you think he is worth more based off of your comments. I hope he signs with the Leafs, he's a hell of a player. I want to put this debate to bed, so I'm going to just say good talk (seriously) and as usual, thanks for indulging.
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