Do you think they changed the lines only for the Finland game ?
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Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Yet Again
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I have no idea, I was asking you. I saw that they loaded up the first line near the end of the game vs USA with Crosby with McDavid, as soon as they pulled the goalie Marner was on. You had information about line changes. I don't think you meant for about 3 minutes in the 3rd period of the Canada USA game. am looking forward to the game with or without the line changes.
leafs in five
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This is best on best .marner is a 3rd liner
Which tells you everything we need to know Hes not in a scoring role not on the top power play his value is on the other side of the pucc which is cool but not worth the millions he’s looking for
I have never thought about Marners skating, always saw him as a good skater. But I think this competition has shown his straight line speed is not the equal of most players.
Stone and Ciowas asked what the goal vs Sweden could do for Marner:
Stone:
"Those are the plays he makes right, he has the skill, he has the .... uhh.... (looks around as he searches for words)... and I think he kind of gets a bad rap sometimes.."
Stone didn't know what else he could add after saying "he has the skill..."
Cooper:
"...thats kid oozes confidence" as he looks away from the reporter and begins to figit with the microphone.
Noone really confidently speaks to the treatment of Marner.
It's not oh my god, it's shocking he gets the criticism he does, he's one of the top players in the game, THE BEST!
They are obviously uncomfortable with the questions. If it were really that shocking that he's criticized, they would speak alot more comfortably about him.
Stone:
Cooper:
Stone:
"Those are the plays he makes right, he has the skill, he has the .... uhh.... (looks around as he searches for words)... and I think he kind of gets a bad rap sometimes.."
Stone didn't know what else he could add after saying "he has the skill..."
Cooper:
"...thats kid oozes confidence" as he looks away from the reporter and begins to figit with the microphone.
Noone really confidently speaks to the treatment of Marner.
It's not oh my god, it's shocking he gets the criticism he does, he's one of the top players in the game, THE BEST!
They are obviously uncomfortable with the questions. If it were really that shocking that he's criticized, they would speak alot more comfortably about him.
Stone:
Cooper:
No way Marner should be paid as much as Point not even close for me
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The Shadow
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What are you trying to say by these quotes exactly? It sounds to me like they speak very highly of him
Marner has become back distraction in this tournament too for his team, just as hes become for Toronto. Nylander isn't, Matthews isnt... Marner is because of his outrageous contract and also his personality. He's paid like he's a top 4 player over the past 6 years but his play doesn't align with his pay and thus Team Canada players are bombarded with constant questions about Marners confidence and abilities. This was foreshadowed when he got his last contract by media and even talked about by Dubas, that if Marner doesn't live up to his contract, fans will turn on him. If he was paid 9 million, this drama probably doesn't happen. Yet... he of course wants to be paid again like he's at the level of players he's not. He needs to go somewhere where he isn't going to be such a distraction with that new contract or he needs to take what he would consider a team friendly contract.
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If you're suggesting he's a distraction now, playing for team Canada, is there anywhere he wouldn't be?
Marner second lowest ice time of the forwards today. Past Konecny with his last 6 on 5 shift.
Somewhere with 2 or 3 reporters in the room after a game. He's a distraction on team Canada primarily because he's a Leaf. Leafs are the big celebrities around the league, Marner himself said they are "gods". His contract and what he says gets significantly less coverage in the media if he was on certain other teams. Yet, Marner loves being a leaf and being a god but then also complains about the media. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Eternal Leaf
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Another below-par game for him.
Made a couple of defensive plays but that's about it.
He was supposed to be the best offensive winger on the team but looks far from it and the line changes say it all. Cooper realizes it too.
Made a couple of defensive plays but that's about it.
He was supposed to be the best offensive winger on the team but looks far from it and the line changes say it all. Cooper realizes it too.
Dude, what are you talking about, this is a mess.
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PanniniClaus
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You could easily scratch him for Jarvis and the team will not miss a beat.
GoonieFace
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You could just ignore him/her and than you don’t need to worry about it
11th forward tonight, only Konecny had less TOI
One less shift than Crosby and MacKinnon, Cirelli had the most shifts... it is just based on who was out there the longest for their shifts, the amount of shifts was even amongst most players because it was not a close game for most of the game so they just rolled lines, I wouldn't look into too much (unless you have an agenda).
The Shadow
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I think he’s a great skill guy but just isn’t playoff material. Besides his OT goal 3 on 3 what has he done?
GoonieFace
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Marner will score the game winner Thursday….its happening
Not played in the playoffs this year yet, but he is is our leading scorer in the playoffs.
I'll also add that Cooper and Co IMO overestimated his coaching abilities by putting Marner on line 1 (despite his documented struggles in the playoffs) and underestimated how much of a distraction Marner could become if the experiment didn't work out. If Marner was on line 3 or 4 in a checking and PK1 role , which he's a very good defensive player...then I think he'd also being getting less attention. Putting him with Mcdavid was a weird move...in addition to the mismatch in Mcdavid being the fastest player on the team and Marner being one of the slowest.
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