SoupNazi
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Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Yet Again
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Can the Marner money be better deployed in other areas is an important question because to me it’s about can this core group win a cup together and I don’t think they can. Too similar, too soft and don’t have it in them to battle as hard as their opponents will. They’re not going to suddenly change to become gritty superstars like Crosby, Toews or Kucherov and how can they find that player / leader with these guys running the show ?
As bad as the optics might be, if they flame out in the playoffs again, major roster changes must happen. Let Marner walk, sign Tavares as a 3C to $4M x 4 or let him walk, buyout or trade Domi, take the $22M in addition cap space and bring in players that know how to win when it counts like Bennett, Braydon Schenn, Marchand … Target Chychrun, Eckblad as UFA’s or Rasmus Andersson who is one year away.
If McDavid doesn’t re-sign over the summer in Edmonton, they need to plan to have cap space available for him if he gets to UFA in July 2026 or perhaps trade for him prior to that because Edmonton won’t want to see him walk away for nothing.
Moving off their core group and Thinking outside the box is something the Shanahan Leafs have never been prepared to do. Let’s hope he’s no longer around to prevent it from happening.
As bad as the optics might be, if they flame out in the playoffs again, major roster changes must happen. Let Marner walk, sign Tavares as a 3C to $4M x 4 or let him walk, buyout or trade Domi, take the $22M in addition cap space and bring in players that know how to win when it counts like Bennett, Braydon Schenn, Marchand … Target Chychrun, Eckblad as UFA’s or Rasmus Andersson who is one year away.
If McDavid doesn’t re-sign over the summer in Edmonton, they need to plan to have cap space available for him if he gets to UFA in July 2026 or perhaps trade for him prior to that because Edmonton won’t want to see him walk away for nothing.
Moving off their core group and Thinking outside the box is something the Shanahan Leafs have never been prepared to do. Let’s hope he’s no longer around to prevent it from happening.
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thewave
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My opinion is that Mitch Marner is not good for us because he is slow and weak. He does get points in the regular season, but consistently fades in important playoff games. He has been a key member to a core that has won a single playoff series over the past 8 years.
I feel it would be wise to trade him for Crosby if we can get Sid to sign an extra year and hope for McDavid.
Discuss.
Lastly. I think I am right because the people that disagree have only 8 years of being wrong.
Thank you
I feel it would be wise to trade him for Crosby if we can get Sid to sign an extra year and hope for McDavid.
Discuss.
Lastly. I think I am right because the people that disagree have only 8 years of being wrong.
Thank you
ULF_55
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From everything we've read he'll re-sign this summer, and will be highest paid player on the team.
Who knows maybe it will be as the Conn Smythe winner?
Who knows maybe it will be as the Conn Smythe winner?
keonsbitterness
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Trading a player who won't waive for a player who won't waive and whose team doesn't want to trade is a pointless discussion.
thewave
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We don't know that. Marner loves Dubas. Crosby loves a challenge and winning.
Unless they say that how do we know. Maybe Crosby would be up for the challenge. Record book stuff, legend maker
ToneDog
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The game against the Americans will show us if he can play against a physical team. If both teams show up, I expect Marner to stay away from any type of contact.
Assuming we beat Finland and USA or Finland beat Sweden, I am not sure we should go all out Saturday night. Beating the USA twice in their barn is no easy feat IMO. We need to win the second game.
Gary Nylund
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If Marner wins the Conn Smythe, I will blow kisses at him at the victory parade as I'm taking victory laps around him on my flying pig.
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ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
No way they bring Shanahan back if they flame out in the playoffs again. I would go shopping on July 1 and only sign Tavares if I cannot find better bang for the buck. We need to add speed and grit.
If we only had a second line that brings what the Eichel, Brady and Matthew line brought last night. That was something to watch. Will be interesting to see if Canada can contain them.
That’s nice putting all the team’s failures on one person
Gary Nylund
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Looks like you didn't understand what you're responding to, try reading the post again.
Nor so sure .ted rogers takes control once he gets to but alot msle
He went after ohtani he ll throw the max at mcdavid
These guys win a few rounds this year or i see a BIG change
BTP
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Looks like Mitch is gonna be a dad, his wife just posted pregnancy pics
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If these Marner threads have one thing, it people with super creative imaginations.
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Hellcat
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It's a well known bugaboo for pro athletes when the first baby comes, the lifestyle adjustment can affect their game. Could just be a wives tale. Ask Morgan how his season following the birth of his first child this past summer has been going.
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It's a dream of yours not worth discussing. Just shut it down in your head, it's not happening.
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Glad someone got what I was trying to say. Not saying it’s going to happen but I can only imagine the backlash if it does.
Mitch Marner's Status with Toronto Maple Leafs Still Yet to be Determined
Toronto Maple Leafs forward Mitch Marner still hasn't signed an extension with the Leafs; Will he remain with the club past 2025?
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The Toronto Maple Leafs might be reaching a crossroads with unrestricted free agent winger Mitch Marner, as NHL insider Elliotte Friedman reported recently that the star forward is not close to deciding whether he wants to get to free agency. Marner will become an unrestricted free agent and will be free to sign with other teams on July 1, which has led to rumors of potential trades involving the 27-year-old forward.
“Unless there’s something going on that I’m not seeing right now, which is always possible, I don’t sense Mitch Marner is anywhere close to making a decision [about free agency],” Friedman said Monday on Sportsnet 590.
Marner has scored 16 goals with 55 assists through 54 games this season. The Toronto Maple Leafs winger is reaching the end of a six-year, $65.41 million contract that includes a full no-move clause, giving Marner control to veto any possible deal.
Marner’s status with Toronto was further examined after the Colorado Avalanche traded forward Mikko Rantanen to Carolina after it was reported that Rantanen was seeking upwards of $14 Million per year as an unrestricted free agent. Hockey insider Frank Seravalli reported that Colorado first inquired about Marner before moving on to receiving young star forward Martin Necas from the Hurricanes.
Friedman had also stated on January 30 that Marner did not want to be moved midseason and that contract talks had not gained any traction either. At this point, the Leafs will have to wait and see if they can retain Marner this offseason or risk losing the valuable winger for nothing in free agency unless Marner decides to accept a trade. This is a situation to watch as the trade deadline approaches.
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Mitch Marner's Status with Toronto Maple Leafs Still Yet to be Determined
Toronto Maple Leafs forward Mitch Marner still hasn't signed an extension with the Leafs; Will he remain with the club past 2025?
The Toronto Maple Leafs might be reaching a crossroads with unrestricted free agent winger Mitch Marner, as NHL insider Elliotte Friedman reported recently that the star forward is not close to deciding whether he wants to get to free agency. Marner will become an unrestricted free agent and will be free to sign with other teams on July 1, which has led to rumors of potential trades involving the 27-year-old forward.
“Unless there’s something going on that I’m not seeing right now, which is always possible, I don’t sense Mitch Marner is anywhere close to making a decision [about free agency],” Friedman said Monday on Sportsnet 590.
Marner has scored 16 goals with 55 assists through 54 games this season. The Toronto Maple Leafs winger is reaching the end of a six-year, $65.41 million contract that includes a full no-move clause, giving Marner control to veto any possible deal.
Marner’s status with Toronto was further examined after the Colorado Avalanche traded forward Mikko Rantanen to Carolina after it was reported that Rantanen was seeking upwards of $14 Million per year as an unrestricted free agent. Hockey insider Frank Seravalli reported that Colorado first inquired about Marner before moving on to receiving young star forward Martin Necas from the Hurricanes.
Friedman had also stated on January 30 that Marner did not want to be moved midseason and that contract talks had not gained any traction either. At this point, the Leafs will have to wait and see if they can retain Marner this offseason or risk losing the valuable winger for nothing in free agency unless Marner decides to accept a trade. This is a situation to watch as the trade deadline approaches.
Look if his position is I don't know. Let him go. Ask him to waive. There is not freaking point playing games like this. Matthews said he is in. Nylander said I am all in. This guy is a freaking wishy washy soft playoff player with poor character IMHO. Like dealing with a manipulative person, this guy. He is playing I am going to hold you hostage and not waive.
Cut bait. He is a POS person. You don't walk away from someone like this. You run.
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