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Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

Mitch gotta look out for Mitch. And with his 'camp' looking out for him, they should make a highly publicized TV special on TSN ala "The Decision 2". A full day all about Mitch Marner? He would love that!
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I am not entirely burned because MM wants a lot of money. I am burned because he has been paid 10.9M for 6 years and still feels undervalued somehow.

He jumped to the highest paid winger in the NHL off an ELC, didn't take max term, and his camp is upset and has turned on the fans? Get out of here dude. What level of appreciation is required? Because fans were roaring after Max Domi's game 7 goal when we were down 3-1. We are fiercely loyal to the team that you're apart of. Sod off to an expansion team if you want max dollar and to have nobody care about hockey there.

If he feels undervalued, what does that make us?
 
He's 18th among active forwards for PPG, ahead of playoff warriors like Barkov, Tkachuk, and Bennett.

Who cares about the regular season here? It's meaningless. Panthers can finish 3rd in the division and still win the cup. Bennett actually just won the Conn Smythe, something Marner never even came close to doing. Who gives a crap about the regular season? Except the entitled players?
 
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I think the only underpaid person that you listed asked for a contract that matches his jersey number because he is superstitious.

Everyone else was paid fairly at the time of signing, especially when you consider where they were paid.



As many Cups as McDavid, as many Smythes and Selkes as Draisaitl...

What is the point?
How many points do McDavid and Drai have?

Oops - focusing on one aspect doesn't work too well, does it?
 
How many points do McDavid and Drai have?

Oops - focusing on one aspect doesn't work too well, does it?

You responded to my post with my original point... thank you for helping me with the argument I was making, I appreciate the support.

Who cares about the regular season here? It's meaningless. Panthers can finish 3rd in the division and still win the cup. Bennett actually just won the Conn Smythe, something Marner never even came close to doing. Who gives a crap about the regular season? Except the entitled players?

Those were playoff stats I gave...

It is funny how you thought it was the regular season.

Maybe Marner isn't as bad as you think.

Who would you rather have in the playoffs. Marner ,Tkachuk or Bennet?

Marner.

Those players were not good in Calgary, they needed Florida to do well.

Do you think Marner would do well in the same circumstances?

Sounds like Marner may end up in Vegas, curious to see how he does there.
 
You responded to my post with my original point... thank you for helping me with the argument I was making, I appreciate the support.
Your flip-flopping dumb statements was intentional?

Good to know - suddenly many more of your posts make sense.
 
That's some real condescending BS.

People clearly understand those two things. What I think is that they have a harder time coming to terms with and understanding why some people try to make the case that he is on the same level as Rantanen or, even more laughably, Mackinnon.

Just my feeling but I would say there’s a measurable percentage decrease in Marner’s popularity in this board as a direct result of the constant money and status pump up over the years.

The unjustified build up just makes him less appealing, independent of anything he’s even done by himself.
 
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Just my feeling but I would say there’s a measurable percentage decrease in Marner’s popularity in this board as a direct result of the constant money and status pump up over the years.

It's the same hypocrites who complain about everything on this board and then praise other players who do the same thing.

Marchand is being reported to be chasing money for his last contract, and everyone wants him who hates Marner.

It is just funny at this point.
 
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Wait are you really saying Mcdavid and Marners playoff productions are similar?

You Marner supporters are absolutely crazy.

A couple seasons ago, comparing him to Gretzky and now comparing him to Mcdavid whose second to Gretzky in playoff production.

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LOL!

And @ACC1224 like it... not surprised!!

The Marner fans are as delusional as "the Marner camp" is!

Dude c'mon, that response was the weakness that I disappointingly expected. So for the record your perspective is, not showing up in the playoffs is only important when you got a hate on for a player. Correct? What you are saying is; winning a team championship is immaterial as long as you have individual awards. Gotchya...

I'm not so much a Marner supporter, it's time we make some tangible changes on the team, as I am an anti-bullshit supporter. For the most part, the people you see challenging your tangent filled tirades, are not what you'd call Marner supporters.
 
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It's the same hypocrites who complain about everything on this board and then praise other players who do the same thing.

Marchand is being reported to be chasing money for his last contract, and everyone wants him who hates Marner.

It is just funny at this point.

No one said anything about Marchand being a good guy.

He’d be a mercenary we hope to court. But please continue with the whataboutism.
 
Just my feeling but I would say there’s a measurable percentage decrease in Marner’s popularity in this board as a direct result of the constant money and status pump up over the years.

The unjustified build up just makes him less appealing, independent of anything he’s even done by himself.

A few years ago this guy was considered the golden boy, he had a Sterling reputation. I think the people he's surrounded himself with have done him no favours, from his agent coming out a few years back saying utterly stupid shit to his dad being that hockey dad from hell. He's not the best polished guy in front of the camera, add it all up and you got what you got now.

Time he moves on.
 
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No one said anything about Marchand being a good guy.

He’d be a mercenary we hope to court. But please continue with the whataboutism.

I am not arguing about Marchand vs Marner, you mentioned that the support for Marner has declined on this board because of his perceived greed.

I'm just saying, who cares, the people who don't support him are a bunch of hypocrites, and their opinion doesn't matter.

No whataboutism.
 
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Zegras for Poehling gives the Ducks another $4M in cap, bringing their total cap space to $36 Million.

And three of their starting wings are RFAs.
 
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It's the same hypocrites who complain about everything on this board and then praise other players who do the same thing.

Marchand is being reported to be chasing money for his last contract, and everyone wants him who hates Marner.

It is just funny at this point.

I'm all for the players getting paid be it here or in some hockey nether world. Players should never have to take a penny less than they are comfortable with. Fans who think players owe them to take a discount so they can feel good about the team they support are completely out to lunch. Narcissists fans unite!
 
I am not arguing about Marchand vs Marner, you mentioned that the support for Marner has declined on this board because of his perceived greed.

I'm just saying, who cares, the people who don't support him are a bunch of hypocrites, and their opinion doesn't matter.

No whataboutism.

It’s actually not purely about “greed” that makes Marner unpopular. That’s the start of it but factor in jealousy, resentment of internal status, on ice failure most importantly, and an extremely vocal and egotistical sub fanbase that is razor focused on his superiority and justifying the original greed that never translates into team success.

Yeah so, Marchand could be greedy, but he’s also successful, entertaining and he also doesn’t have a home made press corps to pump him up when he doesn’t deserve it.
 
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It's the same hypocrites who complain about everything on this board and then praise other players who do the same thing.

Marchand is being reported to be chasing money for his last contract, and everyone wants him who hates Marner.

It is just funny at this point.
People here, myself included, want Marchand bc he wins, and perform when it matters.

Also, nobody is saying Marchand is a great guy. If anything, we all know he is far from it.
 
It’s actually not purely about “greed” that makes Marner unpopular. That’s the start of it but factor in jealousy, resentment of internal status, on ice failure most importantly, and an extremely vocal and egotistical sub fanbase that is razor focused on his superiority and justifying the original greed that never translates into team success.

Yeah so, Marchand could be greedy, but he’s also successful, entertaining and he also doesn’t have a home made press corps to pump him up when he doesn’t deserve it.

Paul whining about how it was unfair that Mitch was overlooked for captain soured it for me. Like STFU already.
 
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Just my feeling but I would say there’s a measurable percentage decrease in Marner’s popularity in this board as a direct result of the constant money and status pump up over the years.

The unjustified build up just makes him less appealing, independent of anything he’s even done by himself.
Well, every player is like that, right? In a cap system, each player is going to be contextualized by their salary/cap hit; that's just natural.

But, there's the background dealings of Marner's camp (agent and Dad), particularly the agent whose general philosophy seems to be getting them to maximize their income regardless of the wedge it may cause between the team and player.

No one would disagree that he's a fine player, but there seems to be a lack of objectivity with some and with him regarding Marner's standing in the league, and what he should be compensated., as well as the impression of being jilted and not apricated due being in the Matthews' shadow.

When you put all of it together, you can see why the whole situation can rub people the wrong way.
 
I am not arguing about Marchand vs Marner, you mentioned that the support for Marner has declined on this board because of his perceived greed.

I'm just saying, who cares, the people who don't support him are a bunch of hypocrites, and their opinion doesn't matter.

No whataboutism.
Both you and AC are just non stop in supporting the idea that MM is being FORCED out by the fans.

Both the team and MM just want to move on, let it go.

Who cares if fans hate MM or love MM, the fact that MM and the CORE 5 failed repeatedly just shows that Leafs need changes in order for them to WIN the CUP.

Lastly, players just need to ignore the noises and play the game. Look at the Panthers, they don't give a crap about anything but winning the Cup. And the only weakness I can think of is the age of Bob.
Really wish the Leafs are more like that, just play to win the Cup.
 
Dude c'mon, that response was the weakness that I disappointingly expected. So for the record your perspective is, not showing up in the playoffs is only important when you got a hate on for a player. Correct? What you are saying is; winning a team championship is immaterial as long as you have individual awards. Gotchya...

I'm not so much a Marner supporter, it's time we make some tangible changes on the team, as I am an anti-bullshit supporter. For the most part, the people you see challenging your tangent filled tirades, are not what you'd call Marner supporters.
McDavid has the second-highest playoff points per 60 minutes in NHL history, second only to Wayne Gretzky. Do you realize what that means?

Marner isn’t even worthy of washing McDavid’s jockstrap, let alone being mentioned in the same breath as playoff McDavid.

Yes, you're being wildly delusional.
 

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