Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity
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Drytoast
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Here's something to consider...
Literally every single leaf besides Marner is wanting to resign with the Leafs this summer. And in the case of Knies...long term.
Maybe...just maybe...Marner was the problem as part of the leadership here in Toronto? I look back at that interaction last year with him on the bench being yelled at by Nylander looking bewildered and to Matthews for validation.
I look to him yelling at his team with dry hair and no injuries. Maybe just maybe he does not "inspire" and comes off as "clique-y" and weak.
Maybe a Leaf team without Marner is more attractive?
Literally every single leaf besides Marner is wanting to resign with the Leafs this summer. And in the case of Knies...long term.
Maybe...just maybe...Marner was the problem as part of the leadership here in Toronto? I look back at that interaction last year with him on the bench being yelled at by Nylander looking bewildered and to Matthews for validation.
I look to him yelling at his team with dry hair and no injuries. Maybe just maybe he does not "inspire" and comes off as "clique-y" and weak.
Maybe a Leaf team without Marner is more attractive?
Antropovsky
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Hyman and Cirelli may make the team..does that mean they are 14 million dollar players?
Why are you avoiding follow up questions to your comment?
Too afraid to actually put something on the line to actually back up the shit you fling.
I didn't know the Olympics have a salary cap.
Frankly, the money involved doesn't matter. You're making such a big deal saying Marner was snubbed and won't be on Team Canada. That's what the bet is about. The bet isn't about how much money people make.
You going to nut up or are you going to shut up?
theTTC
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Guaranteed, based on the weasle-ness of Mitch's agent and his dad: it has already been determined which warm climate team he's going to sign with. However, Mitch's advisors are still screening offers in case a crazy over-the-top bid comes in, in which case Team Marner will use that to extort even more money and term out of their original choice.
Book it, Dano. Mitch is a dull utensil, but his handlers are mercenary scumbag geniuses (just ask Dooby).
Book it, Dano. Mitch is a dull utensil, but his handlers are mercenary scumbag geniuses (just ask Dooby).
Antropovsky
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You are obviously not very smart.
If Cirelli makes it, does that mean hes a 14 million dollar player?
So whether Marner makes it or not... doesnt matter. He very clearly is grouped with 8 million dollar players.
So shut up already. Or explain how him making it, makes him a 14 million dollar player. If you dont Im moving forward and ignoring you and your childish reactions.
Hes not part of Team Canadas first 6, despite two <9 million players being in the 6
He was on the 3rd line for Canada in game 3 and least played forward
All signs point to Team Canada not seeing him as an elite player.
theTTC
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Best two nuggets of wisdom I'm giving young athletic grandsons: stay off all social media platforms, and don't shack up or get married until your career is over.
Antropovsky
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lol your throwing completely random bets at people and then aggressively trying to make them do it. Are you 5? Take a hike with your child games.
You 100% right to bring up salary caps. Apparently Marner doesnt understand them.
My point - Marner wants not only 14 million, but reportedly think he takes too much blame for the Leafs losses. He was laid an RFA deal that superstars get in the league and had 0 goals and 7 assists in 20 game 5,6,7! Yes you deserve the blame Marner! He isnt part od Team Canadas leadership, he wasnt picked in the first 6, he was thr least played player in game 3.
Marner needs to take a hint that he is incredibly overpaid relative to his accomplishments, hence the blame.
despite this...what does he do?
He wants 15 million x 3 years.....
He is literally out there trhing to be the highest paid player of all time.
I haven't seen any statement from Marner that says what he wants. I've seen a bunch of rumours, and rumours are just talk. 80% of them are fake. I'll judge Marner's deal when it's signed.
This isn't a random bet. People are saying Marner was snubbed and left off of Team Canada for the upcoming Olympics, so met bet is simple. If you're going to say shit like that, put your money where your mouth is and take the bet.
Dragao6
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Troy Terry in Anaheim is available??
Is Anaheim not one of his preferred teams?
Maybe we won’t lose him for nothing common Tre
Is Anaheim not one of his preferred teams?
Maybe we won’t lose him for nothing common Tre
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Treliving tried numerous to trade Marner , first in a 3-way with Vegas and Colorado. Then to Carolina for Rantanen.
Unfortunately Marner didn't accept that Leafs no longer wanted him.
Too bad because with Rantanen Leaf might have beaten Florida and advanced. Marner chocked again and Leafs were out.
Leafs need to make the best of a bad situation blocked by a NMC and now its not losing for free, but who are going replace him for free with other unrestricted free agents available. The $14 mil we would have paid Marner will go a long way to replacing his cap space with new players.
And that is only amongst Canadian players, I wonder how many players from the other countries would be selected before Mitch, when compiling a list of best forwards in the NHL
2 comments from me:
1. People need to relax, it's hockey. Honestly I'd love for some of these losers to get charged for their threats and behavior. In no world is it OK to behave like that.
2. As far as the "breakup" part goes I'd say there's a couple reasons for that. First it's generally pretty rare for a player of Marners status to leave their drafting team as a UFA. JT and Gaudreau come to mind as recent examples, so it does happen, but not frequently. Combined with the "won't talk to the leafs" reports were hearing and it at least appears he's unhappy with the organization and situation he's been in as a Leaf. As in, he isn't considering other teams, wants to hear his options, or interested in another team for a specific reason (eg. closer to home like Gaudreau and JT). Instead he wants out and the "want" is anywhere else but Toronto. Perhaps that was true for JT/Gaudreau behind closed doors but that never came out.
The closest recent comparison would probably Tkachuk with Calgary. Not a UFA, but similarly high end player who wanted out of Calgary.
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stickty111
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I don't know how someone can go from this where he's wondering if Marner can fit on this team, and if Babcock likes him to being his cheerleader now.
This is from Marner's 2nd year.
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We won't ever get confirmation about what goes on in the room, but I thought it was really telling that the LR guys were discussing the fact that these core guys don't really like each other.
When you cultivate a culture of getting "what's owed" as opposed to "what's best for winning", you effectively pit these guys against each other.
Nylander holds out. Then Marner holds out. Then Matthews gets what he wants. Then Nylander gets the big extension. Then Matthews gets everything he asks for, and the captaincy.
Me me me. All the time. And this is the result. You can't ask, or expect, these guys to all of a sudden pivot into something they aren't, or haven't been taught how to be.
Tak7
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It's fascinating how different the tone becomes once you get an inside line to a player's camp.
Friedman confirmed weeks ago that Kypreos has an in.
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Drytoast
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Ya I'm not gonna pretend the leadership problem stops with Marner. And I hope he gets an outrageous contract where ever he goes. I want him to get shit on when he inevitably fails again to live up to the selfishness that he demands.
Drytoast
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If the Leafs replaced Marner with Marchand they would have gotten more value for less cost in the playoffs. At least for 1 year.
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So 2/3 we were losers.
Marner walking and JT blowing up the cap structure and rushing the rebuild. Both were Shanahan and Dubas failures.
MLSE really does suck.
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Meh. He's all about the money. Playing lights out during a contract year was no surprise (his playoff performance wasn't either).
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Here’s the thing though. Marner makes more money on his current deal than Makar, Point, Reinhart and Crosby, trailing only McDavid and Mackinnon.
So he doesn’t have the prestige to be a Team Canada first six guy or whatever arbitrary honour that’s been bestowed whatever that’s worth. He’s not valued like that in the game.
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