Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

[ToneDog]

I was really dissapointed that we didn't try this line during the season - seemed like an obvious fit. Could have played Marner on the 2nd line as that line was a bit of a disaster defensively.

It is one of the few issues I have with Berube. Liken it to Babs overplaying Marleau vs Boston.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Overdrive hilarious a minute ago. Question - will Marner have the highest cap hit in the NHL next season?

O'Dog's answer - refuses to answer, does this instead -

 

[Phion Keneuf]

He still golfed with the team this week. Let’s see what happens.

Maybe he’ll let us sign him 8 years and trade… would be the best outcome

 

[Action Jackson]

He’s a fancy skater with great edge work and lateral mobility but I find it’s under powered and sloppy. Balance is not great since he can’t use his footwork to win battles. Escapability is not great. Explosiveness is non existent.

His NHL Stats are 6'0 180, which is laughable and we all know they boost those numbers

In season form he's more like 5'10-5'11 and 160. Which is why he can't win any battles, and doesn't have the strength to be explosive.

Way too small to be effective in a tight game like the playoffs

 

[Legion34]

I honestly at this point think he comes back at this point if the leafs want him. I get the uncertainty. I get the not liking the extra curriculars.

But giving up the 8th year. Potential sb (who knows if everyone will give full sb) endorsements, being close to family with a newborn. Teammates you like.
And

The chance to be the all time points leader for the most famous/global NHL franchise?

He is giving up a jersey in the rafter and legends row.

It’s a kind of crazy thing to do.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I honestly at this point think he comes back at this point if the leafs want him. I get the uncertainty. I get the not liking the extra curriculars.

But giving up the 8th year. Potential sb (who knows if everyone will give full sb) endorsements, being close to family with a newborn. Teammates you like.
And

The chance to be the all time points leader for the most famous/global NHL franchise?

He is giving up a jersey in the rafter and legends row.

It’s a kind of crazy thing to do.

I said before - so many reasons to stay. The only way he leaves is if he's the biggest wuss in NHL history and simply can not handle the pressure.

 

[Stringer Bell]

Imagine if he had even half the will and fearlessness as say...Grabovski?

 

[ToneDog]

His NHL Stats are 6'0 180, which is laughable and we all know they boost those numbers

In season form he's more like 5'10-5'11 and 160. Which is why he can't win any battles, and doesn't have the strength to be explosive.

Way too small to be effective in a tight game like the playoffs

He plays 5' 125 pounds in the playoffs.

 

[Trapper]

It is one of the few issues I have with Berube. Liken it to Babs overplaying Marleau vs Boston.

Only one coach is adjusting to go around the wall. The other keeps trying to run through it.
Even Domi and Marner were better together the year before when Matthews was hurt.
Should have split all 3 on different lines to make matchups harder.

 

[Goodfellows]

Enough of Marners pond hockey s__t! Time to move on from him, use the extra cap space to secure bona-fide playoff in your face players. Enough already, I'm getting fed up, my lady doesn't like this time of the year, seeing me from going from excitement to darn right miserable, same Leafs year after year. It's going to be 58 years since the last time I witnessed a Leaf cup win. All I'm asking is just 1 more before I meet the hockey Gods. Change it up Leafs FFS!

 

[notdoneyet]

I honestly at this point think he comes back at this point if the leafs want him. I get the uncertainty. I get the not liking the extra curriculars.

But giving up the 8th year. Potential sb (who knows if everyone will give full sb) endorsements, being close to family with a newborn. Teammates you like.
And

The chance to be the all time points leader for the most famous/global NHL franchise?

He is giving up a jersey in the rafter and legends row.

It’s a kind of crazy thing to do.

Your right about all those things but why would anyone who gets all the vitriol on this team want to play here

All these guys matthews nylander and especially JT
All have done nothing to get this team to the cup

Marner is everybody’s whipping boy. Matthews has excuses he is hurt poor little boy. He has failed twice as much as marner in the last 9 years after all he is a generational goal scorer. He was hurt this year didn’t stop him from going to the 4 nations to feed his ego instead of taking that time to heal.

Every year nylander fails too. Wouldn’t know how to defend to save his life. Every year can’t wait for the playoffs to be over so he can go play for Sweden. If Mitch did that he would be more villainized than he already is

JT is getting slower and slower and sone posters on here want to sign him for 7 million for 3/4 years. He is a complete playoff dud.

Mitch is going because of the idiots who confront him personally, send threatening messages and most of all the posts that people wrote about his young son. That is way over the line and he will be gone.

Hopefully BT does something smart with that extra cap but I don’t have confidence in him to make the right moves

 

[IronHookem]

He still golfed with the team this week. Let’s see what happens.

Maybe he’ll let us sign him 8 years and trade… would be the best outcome

Its just his post-season farewell tour.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that golfing in May with his fellow chokers is one of the things he will miss the most.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Rumour Roundup: Latest on Marner, Byram and Islanders' GM search

On the latest episode of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman weighed in on the latest regarding Marner’s future, cautioning fans not to read too much into the star winger’s comments during the club’s locker cleanout day on Tuesday.

www.sportsnet.ca

On the latest episode of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman weighed in on the latest regarding Marner’s future, cautioning fans not to read too much into the star winger’s comments during the club’s locker cleanout day on Tuesday.

“I wouldn’t jump to conclusions based on anything he said. It’s emotional, they just lost, and he and everyone else there needs a timeout,” Friedman told co-host Kyle Bukauskas. While much of the discussion around Marner has focused on the likelihood of him moving on from Toronto, an exit isn’t yet a foregone conclusion, Friedman said.

“I think in a perfect world, Toronto would keep him. There are two hurdles to that. Number one: It can’t be at all costs — the two sides have to find a contract that works, and so far, they haven’t been there. So, there’s that. And that’s not an insignificant hurdle, last we heard. Number two: Does Marner think it’s time? Does he in any way, shape or form think it’s time to go somewhere quieter? You can’t make an emotional decision. You shouldn’t make life decisions in the aftermath of as hard a defeat as that.”

“I do believe that the Maple Leafs recognize how big a loss he will be, because he’s not going to be an easy guy to replace. But if you can’t reach an agreement — and he and his family feel it’s time — then that’s where we’re going to be. So that’s the biggest question — when he decompresses, how’s he going to feel?”

The 28-year-old, who led the Maple Leafs in regular-season scoring in 2024-25 with his first 100-point campaign, just played out the final year of a six-year, $65.4-million deal that carried a $10.9-million cap hit. A raise to the $12-14 million per year range would move Marner up among the five highest-paid players in the game — alongside linemate Auston Matthews, whose $13.25-million cap hit ranks as the second-highest in the league next season.

 

[New User Name]

I'm on the bandwagon to not sign Mitch, but you guys have to know, he will come back with whatever team he goes to..........to kill us.

It's just the way things role for the Maple Leafs.

I would keep him for the same salary, 8 years and he gets to pick 20 teams he will not accept a trade to.

Obviously he won't accept that.

 

[Legion34]

Your right about all those things but why would anyone who gets all the vitriol on this team want to play here

All these guys matthews nylander and especially JT
All have done nothing to get this team to the cup

Marner is everybody’s whipping boy. Matthews has excuses he is hurt poor little boy. He has failed twice as much as marner in the last 9 years after all he is a generational goal scorer. He was hurt this year didn’t stop him from going to the 4 nations to feed his ego instead of taking that time to heal.

Every year nylander fails too. Wouldn’t know how to defend to save his life. Every year can’t wait for the playoffs to be over so he can go play for Sweden. If Mitch did that he would be more villainized than he already is

JT is getting slower and slower and sone posters on here want to sign him for 7 million for 3/4 years. He is a complete playoff dud.

Mitch is going because of the idiots who confront him personally, send threatening messages and most of all the posts that people wrote about his young son. That is way over the line and he will be gone.

Hopefully BT does something smart with that extra cap but I don’t have confidence in him to make the right moves

again. Who is “all the fans”? What. Mayyyybe 500 people here.

A few comments on the athletic?
There are thousands of Marner jerseys.

There are millions of fans. Most don’t follow that deep. It is the 1 percent of fans who make all the noise.

I don’t see how an adult gets mad about that. Just don’t read it. I don’t have social media. It’s not hard.

I think he is rightly frustrated. I think there is part of him that wants out. And he can always get out. Signing an 8 year deal here doesn’t mean he has to stay. He could ask for a trade.

Why not cement your legacy. Become the all time points leader. Secure the bag. Get your bonuses. And then if you still have issues for when your kids are older.

Obviously it’s his choice but when you look at

1.) 8th year
2.) signing bonuses
3.) endorsements
4.) being an all time record holder
5.) being on a consistent playoff team
6.) being close to family.

Who can offer all that? There are tons of players who went through bad times and remember it fondly.

I’m ok if he goes either way. But looking at it logically. When push comes to shove. I don’t know where he goes.

If I’m Toronto. I give him a week. Then go back to him. Talk about all these points. Then if he wants to leave or isn’t sure. Tell him go see what’s out there. And if u want the 8th year we will work out a deal.

I think he checks. Sees that he would make more here. Then comes back.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Confucius]

Rumour Roundup: Latest on Marner, Byram and Islanders' GM search

On the latest episode of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman weighed in on the latest regarding Marner’s future, cautioning fans not to read too much into the star winger’s comments during the club’s locker cleanout day on Tuesday.

www.sportsnet.ca

On the latest episode of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman weighed in on the latest regarding Marner’s future, cautioning fans not to read too much into the star winger’s comments during the club’s locker cleanout day on Tuesday.

“I wouldn’t jump to conclusions based on anything he said. It’s emotional, they just lost, and he and everyone else there needs a timeout,” Friedman told co-host Kyle Bukauskas. While much of the discussion around Marner has focused on the likelihood of him moving on from Toronto, an exit isn’t yet a foregone conclusion, Friedman said.

“I think in a perfect world, Toronto would keep him. There are two hurdles to that. Number one: It can’t be at all costs — the two sides have to find a contract that works, and so far, they haven’t been there. So, there’s that. And that’s not an insignificant hurdle, last we heard. Number two: Does Marner think it’s time? Does he in any way, shape or form think it’s time to go somewhere quieter? You can’t make an emotional decision. You shouldn’t make life decisions in the aftermath of as hard a defeat as that.”

“I do believe that the Maple Leafs recognize how big a loss he will be, because he’s not going to be an easy guy to replace. But if you can’t reach an agreement — and he and his family feel it’s time — then that’s where we’re going to be. So that’s the biggest question — when he decompresses, how’s he going to feel?”

The 28-year-old, who led the Maple Leafs in regular-season scoring in 2024-25 with his first 100-point campaign, just played out the final year of a six-year, $65.4-million deal that carried a $10.9-million cap hit. A raise to the $12-14 million per year range would move Marner up among the five highest-paid players in the game — alongside linemate Auston Matthews, whose $13.25-million cap hit ranks as the second-highest in the league next season.

No team is giving Mitch more than Rantanen. If he wants to move on for less than a 10% raise be my guest.

 

[ashs]

Marners agent gonna ruin him like he ruined Taylor Hall.

 

[Superstar]

Marner wants Draisaitl money, lol...Draisaitl opened the scoring against Dallas with a drive to the net and a wicked far-side shot...I take it Marner would have skated behind the net in that situation looking for someone to pass to...

 

[HarryLime]

Marner wants Draisaitl money, lol...Draisaitl opened the scoring against Dallas with a drive to the net and a wicked far-side shot...I take it Marner would have skated behind the net in that situation looking for someone to pass to...

He wouldn't have got that deep. He would have circled back to the blue line

 

[png57]

He was well within his right to use a clause in his contract to evoke trade protection, which was fairly negotiated into his current deal in good faith.

He was under no obligation to waive. He also had a pregnant wife due to deliver in a matter of weeks - not many players would waive in that situation. Plus, he's also in a contract year, was about to put up 100 points, and go into the playoffs as division winners, potentially ready for a big post-season.

The idea that he should have waived is nonsense.

Screwing the Leafs future was not dealing him before the NMC kicked in in 2023.

Whatever your thoughts are on Kyle Dubas, he was the only person affiliated with that entire organization that had the balls to trade him, and the mere suggestion that he might have, got him fired by Shanahan who was adamant this core could work together.

Sure he was well within his rights to use his NMC (dumb clause negotiated by Dubas). From the perspective of the Leafs though, this NMC 100% screwed them. Because now only one of these two things will happen:

- Marner walks for nothing (while they were so close to getting Rantanen who signed a long term deal recently!)
- Marner resigns with the Leafs, but drawback is he sucks in the playoffs.

If the leafs let him walk for nothing, the silver lining is all that cap space we got available now.

In an alternate scenario, let's say the Leafs aren't keen on getting Tavares'ed and let Marner walk for nothing. I was Leafs management, I'd offer him a dirt cheap contract (let's say $4M or less). I guarantee Marner and Ferris (his contract agent) will feel like they got shown the middle finger from the team. But if we look at this objectively, how is Marner's playoff production different to a bottom-6 forward (especially through games 5-7)? It would be reasonable NOT to offer him an expensive contract! Hockey is about winning the grand prize of the stanley cup. 100 point regular season stats don't matter if you can't help your team to a deep playoff run.

 

[Mr Nogatco]

Mitch, a Leaf Forever

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Shirt probably still fits him

 

[Tak7]

Sure he was well within his rights to use his NMC (dumb clause negotiated by Dubas). From the perspective of the Leafs though, this NMC 100% screwed them. Because now only one of these two things will happen:

- Marner walks for nothing (while they were so close to getting Rantanen who signed a long term deal recently!)
- Marner resigns with the Leafs, but drawback is he sucks in the playoffs.

If the leafs let him walk for nothing, the silver lining is all that cap space we got available now.

In an alternate scenario, let's say the Leafs aren't keen on getting Tavares'ed and let Marner walk for nothing. I was Leafs management, I'd offer him a dirt cheap contract (let's say $4M or less). I guarantee Marner and Ferris (his contract agent) will feel like they got shown the middle finger from the team. But if we look at this objectively, how is Marner's playoff production different to a bottom-6 forward (especially through games 5-7)? It would be reasonable NOT to offer him an expensive contract! Hockey is about winning the grand prize of the stanley cup. 100 point regular season stats don't matter if you can't help your team to a deep playoff run.

The clause didnt screw the Leafs.

The Leafs entire handling of the situation, screwed the Leafs.

There were still ways around the clause - like not waiting to fire the previous GM until weeks before the clause was set to kick in, or by actually applying some pressure for the clause to moved last summer.

Players are also paid largely based on their regular season performance - and Marner is a 30 goal, 100 point all-situations All Star winger.

He might be capital "U" USELESS in the playoffs, but he's still very valuable to a team trying to get into the playoffs - Buffalo or Detroit for example - or a team that already feels they have a strong core in place and therefore dont need to rely on him as much as the Leafs did - Colorado or Carolina?

Point is, he will have suiters.

It makes sense for this break up to occur. It just reeks of f***ing incompetence by the Leafs that we've ended up here