Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Leafs are an average offensive team and top 3 in goals against so of course the way forward is to drop Marner to sign more defensemen!

Damn, if our offense is middling I hope we're not spending too much of our cap on wingers

 

[Dekes For Days]

Try and be more positive. Lol Overpaying Mitch does not improve this team at all

I am positive. I trust that the Leafs will re-sign Marner. I'm also positive that people around here have no clue what proper compensation looks like.
Paying Marner what he's earned helps the team more than losing him and overpaying mid-tier UFA defensemen that we don't need.

 

[Hallonbroder]

Overpaying anyone doesn't help.

You keep saying this in some kind of defence of Marner, which is interesting. Before Nylanders new deal, he made 6,9 for some years, being their best playoff performers. Now, he got paid because he had delivered (at least delivered some kind of positives in the playoffs). Marner have been paid much more than Nylander for years, 4 mil more even, and have had some more assists and some really bad playoffs to show for it - why the solution be to pay him even more?

 

[TheDoldrums]

Damn, if our offense is middling I hope we're not spending too much of our cap on wingers

perhaps the takeaway is with this defensive coach they have been able to put together an elite goal prevention team without spending big on goalies or defensemen. And we have 4 defenseman locked up long-term already so there isn't really any space to add big salaries there anyways. So yeah, you spend on offense, obviously.

 

[Hallonbroder]

I am positive. I trust that the Leafs will re-sign Marner. I'm also positive that people around here have no clue what proper compensation looks like.
Paying Marner what he's earned helps the team more than losing him and overpaying mid-tier UFA defensemen that we don't need.

…how did he earn this, though?…

 

[Dekes For Days]

…how did he earn this, though?…

With his play.

 

[notbias]

You keep saying this in some kind of defence of Marner, which is interesting. Before Nylanders new deal, he made 6,9 for some years, being their best playoff performers. Now, he got paid because he had delivered (at least delivered some kind of positives in the playoffs). Marner have been paid much more than Nylander for years, 4 mil more even, and have had some more assists and some really bad playoffs to show for it - why the solution be to pay him even more?

Which years has Nylander been the best playoff performer?

It may shock you how few years it's been since he has been talked about like some playoff god here to bring down Marner.

 

[Maple Leaf]

This core can’t get it done in the playoffs time to make a real splash

I am positive. I trust that the Leafs will re-sign Marner. I'm also positive that people around here have no clue what proper compensation looks like.
Paying Marner what he's earned helps the team more than losing him and overpaying mid-tier UFA defensemen that we don't need.

Marner will go limp as usual when the game is tight you guys can keep recording the regular season stats for the next decade

 

[ACC1224]

You keep saying this in some kind of defence of Marner, which is interesting. Before Nylanders new deal, he made 6,9 for some years, being their best playoff performers. Now, he got paid because he had delivered (at least delivered some kind of positives in the playoffs). Marner have been paid much more than Nylander for years, 4 mil more even, and have had some more assists and some really bad playoffs to show for it - why the solution be to pay him even more?

Being paid more is on the GM not the Player. He was willing to take much less the season prior.
Even if he takes the same cap % he'll get more. There's nothing to indicate they don't value the player so I wouldn't expect any pay cut.

 

[Mess]

Being paid more is on the GM not the Player. He was willing to take much less the season prior.
Even if he takes the same cap % he'll get more. There's nothing to indicate they don't value the player so I wouldn't expect any pay cut.

Do you believe Marner is 1 of the best top 10 players in the game?

Marner has and is being paid currently and has for the past 5 years as one of the top 10 highest paid players in the game.

A clueless former Leafs GM gave him that deal when he could have gotten Marner for nearly $2.5 mil less (@ approx $8.5 mil) and gotten more term, had he signed him a year prior and before Matthews.

Agreed its not Marner's fault that Leafs got played by deploying a greenhorn GM, but does our current GM need to fix/adjust that error or double down on it seems to be the question on the table?