Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

[francis246]

What is horsecrap ???

How do we pay these guys on average 12.5m each and expect to sign JT. Deal with giving the goalies a raise and satisfy guys like Knies? How do you work that math and win? Depth etc? Dcore especially

This legit stuff not junk.


Thank you. Yes I agree. The overpays and cap structure will hit us in the face in that 3rd year. I think we have 2 solid years to win not 3 but at least you have given it thought.

The defense is pretty much set. 5 out of 6 dmen are locked up for next 3 years, so this is the d core they believe in. It's going to be tight but I assume the leafs are going to be trusting their ELC guys. I also think they will look to move off Kampf and bury Reaves. Unfortunately I think Jarnkrok's career is in danger of being over, so that's almost an additional 6 million. I will agree with you that it is likely not the most ideal structure. But I do think Tavares will be making 5 million or less. I think the O'Reilly deal is a perfect comparable for him. somewhere above 4.5 but less than 5 million.

 

[arso40]

Slow him down how? By taking an interference penalty? You can’t impede a player that was not anywhere near the puck. Like I said his reaction time to getting back to help back check, could have 100% been better. But Samsonov has to play the puck, and Rielly can’t be floating near the blue line and Marner was flat footed on that play. That was a complete systemic break down. Not just “Marner should stop him”

You can bump the player what do you mean slow him down how ? Are you joking ?

Willie had a pretty good float going on during that play as well. Lots of blame to go around.

He was on the wrong side of the ice should he have left his side of the ice to help these guys do their job?

 

[ACC1224]

You can bump the player what do you mean slow him down how ? Are you joking ?


He was on the wrong side of the ice should he have left his side of the ice to help these guys do their job?

Watch it again, he was floating in the middle of the ice in the Leaf end.

 

[francis246]

You can bump the player what do you mean slow him down how ? Are you joking ?


He was on the wrong side of the ice should he have left his side of the ice to help these guys do their job?

I went back to watch the play, there is zero chance Marner would have been able to bump Pastrnak. It was a dump in from the red line on the left side of the ice, he would have got called for interference or a trip at the speed Pastrnak was going at. Secondly, Marner was puck watching (if you want to put blame on him for something it would be that. He was watching the dump in and wasn't even facing Pastrnak's direction to see him sneak behind him very fast. The one guy who was facing forward and could see that play developing was Rielly. But unfortunately Rielly was WAY too high and he could not react in time. I don't want to shit on Nylander too much, but if he does 3 or 4 hard strides he probably disrupts that play as well. He floated in. Like I said, break down's on everyone's part but i wouldn't blame on one person.

 

[Nineteen67]

Not a chance. Athletes are conditioned to stay in the moment, looking forward 6 months serves no purpose.

Working towards the playoffs everyday of their lives.

 

[notdoneyet]

He hasn’t earned a thing in my books I saw someone who couldn’t deliver time and time again when we needed him to and last year was probably his worst showing in the playoffs my opinion anyway like I said I hope he can Over come his fear this year he shouldn’t be afraid of the playoffs at this point it’s going on 8 years so hopefully he’s ready

Last playoffs he was coming off a high ankle sprain and he was the only one who showed up
One guy had a migraine and missed games. I have bad migraines and I go to the hospital and get an IV and drugs and by the time the IV is done the migraine is gone. Nylander who has the best doctors in the world missed half the playoffs
And matthews our savior had an undisclosed injury and missed half the playoffs
But yep keep spinning the crap about how marner is solely responsible for our playoff defeat

I’m tired of hearing marner doesn’t show up in the playoffs and our other two greedy bastards haven’t done shit all
To contribute to a successful playoff’s as much as people spin this narrative

Our biggest culprit has been poor goaltending who can’t make the great save when needed

Maybe this year things change

For all those posters who keep bashing this team please feel free to go root for whatever bandwagon team you can find

 

[thewave]

Last playoffs he was coming off a high ankle sprain and he was the only one who showed up
One guy had a migraine and missed games. I have bad migraines and I go to the hospital and get an IV and drugs and by the time the IV is done the migraine is gone. Nylander who has the best doctors in the world missed half the playoffs
And matthews our savior had an undisclosed injury and missed half the playoffs
But yep keep spinning the crap about how marner is solely responsible for our playoff defeat

I’m tired of hearing marner doesn’t show up in the playoffs and our other two greedy bastards haven’t done shit all
To contribute to a successful playoff’s as much as people spin this narrative

Our biggest culprit has been poor goaltending who can’t make the great save when needed

Maybe this year things change

For all those posters who keep bashing this team please feel free to go root for whatever bandwagon team you can find

High ankle sprain.

Please explain why he literally played a 30 minute game just before the series. How does one go from nursing a sprain to playing an insane 30mins just games before the series he shit the bed in.

Sounds like an excuse. He showed up the first games and faded in the elimination games again.

 

[Confucius]

Not a chance. Athletes are conditioned to stay in the moment, looking forward 6 months serves no purpose.

One game at a time, is what I always heard

 

[thusk]

High ankle sprain.

Please explain why he literally played a 30 minute game just before the series. How does one go from nursing a sprain to playing an insane 30mins just games before the series he shit the bed in.

Sounds like an excuse. He showed up the first games and faded in the elimination games again.

High angke sprain, after a time you can get back and walking/ skating but doesn't mean you get back all your flexibility. You can play 20-30min but you will not play 20-30 m at 100%

They're some player in skilled position in football who's struggle pretty hard and needed a ton of time just to get back at their level and some player fail to ever get it back

 

[thewave]

High angke sprain, after a time you can get back and walking/ skating but doesn't mean you get back all your flexibility. You can play 20-30min but you will not play 20-30 m at 100%

They're some player in skilled position in football who's struggle pretty hard and needed a ton of time just to get back at their level and some player fail to ever get it back

But why stress it if you don't have to? It just doesn't make sense leading into the playoffs. What is the point of the added risk?

I don't think it was an issue at that point personally.

 

[Confucius]

But why stress it if you don't have to? It just doesn't make sense leading into the playoffs. What is the point of the added risk?

I don't think it was an issue at that point personally.

Everybody wanted 70, even the coach I’d bet.

 

[thewave]

Everybody wanted 70, even the coach I’d bet.

Partly because of that for sure. Sadly it is likely also the reason 70 didn't happen