Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

[Suntouchable13]

I get your thought, and I was in favour of letting Marner walk and using his dollars to make us better. But cap is going up, and dang, he is playing so good. Makes it so difficult to decide.

He has always been this good, in the regular season. This is nothing new. We know how good he is. Nobody is denying him that. Carry the team like this in the playoffs and people will love you.

 

[Confucius]

He has always been this good, in the regular season. This is nothing new. We know how good he is. Nobody is denying him that. Carry the team like this in the playoffs and people will love you.

You must be reading a different hfboards

 

[ACC1224]

He has always been this good, in the regular season. This is nothing new. We know how good he is. Nobody is denying him that. Carry the team like this in the playoffs and people will love you.

You must be reading a different hfboards

Was going to say pretty much the same thing.

 

[thewave]

He has always been this good, in the regular season. This is nothing new. We know how good he is. Nobody is denying him that. Carry the team like this in the playoffs and people will love you.

Yeah that's the point. We are beyond talent and money for contracts at this point. It's really down to WINNING.

Must win, no excuses anymore. Everyone of the players promised to deliver us from this Cup hell are paid or about to. Need results.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

With the cap increasing in the next few years I think it's important we resign Mitch. If Tavares can take a 4 to 5 mill contract on the short term we should have enough space to address the 2c slot next season.

 

[thusk]

Goaltending is not defense. Goaltending is goaltending. It is a different position entirely. Treliving has had more cap space and just as many assets. The difference?
Instead of taking over a bad defensive team and making it good, he took over a good defensive team and made it bad. Instead of spending his forward budget on a 1C and his defensive budget on a top pairing defenseman to fill organizational weaknesses, he spent his budgets on overpaying poor mid-tier player choices, chasing unnecessary snot, and wasting a prime year. Thank god he's been able to pivot and fix some of what he screwed up. Next task is making sure to not screw up the Marner signing, and get him locked up ASAP, as losing him would be a much more significant mistake.

1-Cap space maybe, asset no...When Dubas step in all the asset he had:
all leafs pick
Prospect / young pool : brown, dermott, kapanen, johnsson, liljegren, bracco, korshkov and

Treliving 2004 1st pick ,

no 2nd, no 3rd in 2024 and no 1st and second pick in 2025

prospect / young pool : Knies, minten, niemela

So to get a D with term, that would probably cost Knies because it was 1 of only value thing ( for a top 4 D) leafs had with a 1st pick and probably what every team would asking for

2-14% of leafs Line up in D was atreliving guy Klinberg and later Benoit who replaced Holl. The rest was exactly the same than the previous season...Please don't tell me Tre made leafs goes from great D to bad D group, it was the SAME!!!!!!

3- amount best name on market last season, outside of Orlov, Holl/ Schenn /Klinberg was all amount best D availablw. Sorry its not with those kind of player you build a D...

No quality D available on free agent market, no value to give outside of Knies, Minten and a 1st pick and a good chance he kept Knies.

 

[MapleLeafs77]

You do not sign marner until after playoffs. Its not like he will give you a discount now before playoffs anyways. Plus we have all seen this before with him.

Can you imagine if they resign him now for 13 mill and then once again we lose in 1st round and he pulls his playoff disappearance act?

 

[ULF_55]

What's funny was marner leaving the zone early for the breakaway goal, and Nylander playing physical defending in his own zone for his breakaway goal.

Learning from each other.

 

[ACC1224]

He's been really selfish with Matthews out, padding meaningless points instead of allowing others to score.

What's funny was marner leaving the zone early for the breakaway goal, and Nylander playing physical defending in his own zone for his breakaway goal.

Learning from each other.

Nylander made a few excellent plays defensively last night, played with a little more aggression.
Loving the evolution of his game, hopefully he can keep it up.

 

[ULF_55]

He's been really selfish with Matthews out, padding meaningless points instead of allowing others to score.


Nylander made a few excellent plays defensively last night, played with a little more aggression.
Loving the evolution of his game, hopefully he can keep it up.

It will be interesting to see how the lines change when Matthews comes back.

Matthews getting his own line would make sense.

They already have 2 of the best forwards on effective lines, why break up what is working.

 

[ACC1224]

It will be interesting to see how the lines change when Matthews comes back.

Matthews getting his own line would make sense.

They already have 2 of the best forwards on effective lines, why break up what is working.

I can't imagine they will split Tavares and Marner up, they'll need to continue to carry the team.
Matthews will be saddled with Domi for a bit I would think.

They'll put the gang altogether for the P though..

 

[arso40]

What's funny was marner leaving the zone early for the breakaway goal, and Nylander playing physical defending in his own zone for his breakaway goal.

Learning from each other.

I don’t think marner ever been considered physical lol other than that taking a page out of each others book for sure though