Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

[thusk]

I just hope some oracle comes in here to tell us about how only the playoffs matter.

or antro who gonna tell marner just benefit of jt on his 1st goal
and
his second goal was just an amaizing play of everyone on the ice except marner

 

[thewave]

With matthews 13 goal and 82 pts pace
without matthews 62 goal and 144 pts pace

But Marner need Matthews to looking good, all credit goes to matthews for everything marner doing

So let's do that going forward and hope it continues into the PO. Nobody cares if they are wrong when the wins are rolling in.

 

[Smif]

It looked like Marner had a good game but I won't celebrate until someone tells me his icf, xicf, iscf, ihdxf, ihdcf, xgf, lgbtq rate compared to Nylander.

 

[thewave]

It looked like Marner had a good game but I won't celebrate until I someone tells me his icf, xicf, iscf, ihdxf, ihdcf, xgf, lgbtq rate compared to Nylander.

Nylander was better on all except for the last one.

 

[Mr_Fun]

I get the apprehension about this not being the playoffs, but, you do still need great play from your stars in reg season to make it to the playoffs, too; especially missing some key players for a fairly long stretch. As has been said -- there's nothing wrong with appreciating what we have seen the last little while. All our core players (that are left) have stepped up bigtime during this stretch.

It looked like Marner had a good game but I won't celebrate until I someone tells me his icf, xicf, iscf, ihdxf, ihdcf, xgf, lgbtq rate compared to Nylander.

I've heard if lgbtq+...how bad do you have to be to get an lgbtq-??

 

[cyris]

I get the apprehension about this not being the playoffs, but, you do still need great play from your stars in reg season to make it to the playoffs, too; especially missing some key players for a fairly long stretch. As has been said -- there's nothing wrong with appreciating what we have seen the last little while. All our core players (that are left) have stepped up bigtime during this stretch.


I've heard if lgbtq+...how bad do you have to be to get an lgbtq-??

I get the playoff thing somewhat. We have seen tons of regular season success and little playoff success.
But it’s pointless to say let’s see it in the playoffs when that just isn’t possible right now.

 

[TMLAM34]

Marner has been playing fantastic ever since Matthews went down. Hopefully the two are kept on separate lines when Matthews returns. McMann - Tavares - Marner has been really good and Marner always got Tavares to elevate his game.

 

[DarkKnight]

I get the playoff thing somewhat. We have seen tons of regular season success and little playoff success.
But it’s pointless to say let’s see it in the playoffs when that just isn’t possible right now.

Exactly. It's a given, it's baked in, it's forever true, he and they will be judged on the playoffs. So, let's just assume this self evident truth. Then what? You either don't watch, OR you take what you see now, and are encouraged. I see a little more maturity, a little more careful with the puck, a little more board, dirty area, effectiveness. I see a guy excelling when the Captain is out, when the forwards are dropping like flies, I see leadership. That's objectively good, with the caveat being the self evident truth that stooge nation doesn't have to repeat because it's a self evident truth.

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

Dude is a monster right now. Unreal to see every night.

 

[sunstersun]

I am/was a Marner skeptic, but I've been uber impressed with his play without Matthews. When Matthews comes back, let Marner drive his own line through the playoffs. I'd be happy to pay him at that point.

Great game.

 

[Jmo89]

I'm as frustrated as many with the playoffs but it's obvious they're re-signing Marner. I don't think they ever tried to trade him. Berube wanted him this season and Berube will want him next season.

 

[LeafSteel]

Coincidence that Marner is playing like this without Matthews?

They need to be kept apart.

They both are the best versions of themselves apart and the whole team is better when they are too.

 

[Craig Button]

I get the apprehension about this not being the playoffs, but, you do still need great play from your stars in reg season to make it to the playoffs, too; especially missing some key players for a fairly long stretch. As has been said -- there's nothing wrong with appreciating what we have seen the last little while. All our core players (that are left) have stepped up bigtime during this stretch.


I've heard if lgbtq+...how bad do you have to be to get an lgbtq-??

You have to be super MAGA bad to get an lgbtq-

 

[Dekes For Days]

Another beautiful game by Marner. Marner is now up to a 109 point pace, and has had a multi-point game in 7 out of the 8 games without Matthews.
Been great to see him take over when the team needs him.

Before Dubas
leafs goal against 2,83
Dubas era 2,93
1st year after dubas era resulting of Dubas work in D 3,15
Second year where tre really been able to put his color to leafs D 2,50
It's the 1st year leafs really like a top defensive team...
Dubas had all salary cap space of the world to make something with his D but unstead to upgrade his D, he gave up a huge contract to tavares when they was already pretty strong down the middle in the top 6 with matthews and Kadri.
Treliving took a team with no D and no cap space at all and build something better than what Dubas ever did in 2 years...

You're confusing defense and goaltending. You're looking at the wrong stat. We were poor defensively in the early Matthews era. We improved to one of the better defensive teams in the league under Dubas, for the first time in decades. Treliving came in, made a bunch of poor defensive decisions, and our defensive results tanked last year. This year, he's put it back to what we had. Also, the way you posted even the wrong stat is so misleading. Treliving would be the worst at 3.04, but you've attempted to attribute last year to the wrong GM, in a way that you didn't do for the previous GM switch.

And quickly... No, this is not the first year that we've been a top defensive team. Also, a reminder that Dubas upgraded our D with a top pairing defenseman in his first year. Also, a reminder that we were organizationally weak at center, and Tavares money came from departing forwards. Also, a reminder that Treliving took over one of the best teams in the league, and a good defensive team, and had an abundance of cap space (including a bigger cap increase last offseason than Dubas' entire tenure) and is still working to match it. Let's just be happy that he's doing better than last year. Hopefully his next step is signing Marner ASAP.

 

[Gabriel426]

You have to be super MAGA bad to get an lgbtq-

We have to respect whatever they identify as.
If they want to see themselves as lgbtq-, then we have to accept them as such.