Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

[Evilhomer]

He was always going to get a big contract from the leafs. All that is happening now is that fans are coming around to wanting him resigned. It's taken less time than I expected.

 

[The Shadow]

He broke up the 2 on 1
And then took it himself to snipe the winner in OT. Nice shot

 

[thusk]

When leafs hired Berube, i said than the guy who will benefit the most of Berube north/south system would be Marner.

Berube system just help Marner to simplify his game. Stop waiting for the perfect play and just goes to the net like he did under babcock (where he had been at his best in playoff)

 

[Racer88]

When leafs hired Berube, i said than the guy who will benefit the most of Berube north/south system would be Marner.

Berube system just help Marner to simplify his game. Stop waiting for the perfect play and just goes to the net like he did under babcock (where he had been at his best in playoff)

I never thought even Berube could straighten out Marners game put it looks like he is having a positive effect on him.
Secondly Marner is way more effective away from Matthews, they should never play on the same line again

 

[DarkKnight]

When leafs hired Berube, i said than the guy who will benefit the most of Berube north/south system would be Marner.

Berube system just help Marner to simplify his game. Stop waiting for the perfect play and just goes to the net like he did under babcock (where he had been at his best in playoff)

I also knew Berube would appreciate Marner's game. It s a great match so far, and he's his horse.

 

[Divine]

He was always going to get a big contract from the leafs. All that is happening now is that fans are coming around to wanting him resigned. It's taken less time than I expected.

Not really.

When you see the cap hit you'll realize that any player at that cap hit would be good.

If we were re-signing him for 8M or under, sign me up. Would the Leafs be a worse team with two 6M players who can each score 20-30 goals and split up the offense?

We need goalscoring not the lowest scoring 12M player in NHL history.

Let's see what Rantanen gets. He's basically a better version of Marner who's physical and has put up 50+ goals... oh and he leads the Avs in playoff scoring nearly every year.

 

[Racer88]

Wtf, can't score 5 on 5, what a bum.

Muffin shot, what a bum.

He is playing like he should be at his price point, let’s hope it keeps up once Matthews comes back.
Hopefully he does not revert back to differing everything to Matthews

 

[Mr_Fun]

I also knew Berube would appreciate Marner's game. It s a great match so far, and he's his horse.

I think Mitch had the misfortune of having a sociopathic coach who he really wasn't inspired to play for and a coach right after who wouldn't keep him in check.

 

[thewave]

He is playing like he should be at his price point, let’s hope it keeps up once Matthews comes back.
Hopefully he does not revert back to differing everything to Matthews

Like to see 10.9m players play like 10.9m players

 

[Racer88]

Like to see 10.9m players play like 10.9m players

That’s all we ask for and to not suck in the playoffs

 

[LeafGrief]

Love to see the guy thriving and playing well for us, but I don’t think points in November are changing anyone’s mind. He’s always money in November.

 

[ORRFForever]

Love to see the guy thriving and playing well for us, but I don’t think points in November are changing anyone’s mind. He’s always money in November.

Sad but true.

 

[DarkKnight]

Welcome to the top 10 in scoring again Mitch.

 

[thusk]

I never thought even Berube could straighten out Marners game put it looks like he is having a positive effect on him.
Secondly Marner is way more effective away from Matthews, they should never play on the same line again

The #1 Marner issu is when he thinking too much. East-West keefe system where the majority of scoring chance was coming off the rush, he was looking too much all the time how he could pass the puck and exemple in 2v1 with JT, he would certainly try to find every way to pass it to tavares... tonight he just keep it simple, he saw an opportunity and he jump on it. Keep it simple, goes to the net and take your chance...

... And chance off the rush is not really Marner strenght, its more Nylander strenght so that why i had more doubt about Nylander under Berube than Marner but it's an other story ( and both doing good job this season)

Marner always had great work ethic, defensive 1st mind and why whatever if it was Babcock, Keefe or Berube... Marner always been #1 player they trust in any kind of situation whatever what. The difference right now is he react to the game unstead or thinking about what he should do. If he can translate it on the playoff, he will be amaizing

 

[Divine]

The #1 Marner issu is when he thinking too much. East-West keefe system where the majority of scoring chance was coming off the rush, he was looking too much all the time how he could pass the puck and exemple in 2v1 with JT, he would certainly try to find every way to pass it to tavares... tonight he just keep it simple, he saw an opportunity and he jump on it. Keep it simple, goes to the net and take your chance...

... And chance off the rush is not really Marner strenght, its more Nylander strenght so that why i had more doubt about Nylander under Berube than Marner but it's an other story ( and both doing good job this season)

Marner always had great work ethic, defensive 1st mind and why whatever if it was Babcock, Keefe or Berube... Marner always been #1 player they trust in any kind of situation whatever what. The difference right now is he react to the game unstead or thinking about what he should do. If he can translate it on the playoff, he will be amaizing

The #1 Marner issue is he doesn't have an NHL shot. When there's no space out there to make passes, he becomes useless.

The #2 Marner issue is his cap hit. We can't afford a player making 12M that is useless out there without space because he never bothered to develop his shot in his entire hockey career. Generally players with Marner's talent put up 40 goals easily. Almost all the good passers can score... except Marner. Marner unfortunately has the Thornton gene of no shot, and we know how that worked out for Thornton in the playoffs - similar stats to Marner.

All the other good passers have scoring ability. That makes their passing game even better because you got to respect the shot. With Marner, teams dare him to shoot. Even Edmonton was giving him the open slot for the shot on the PP tonight and he kept trying to pass it through.

Good teams (playoff teams) will take the 5% chance he beats the goalie clean on a shot over the risk of the cross crease pass for him to find the open man - so they give him space and then block the passing lanes. He develops his shot and he's a way bigger threat, and more in line with his cap hit - like Kucherov, Point, McDavid, Rantanen, Draisaitl, Nylander, Matthews, Aho etc. All of those players can pass AND shoot.