Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Again

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On one of the more recent Leafs report pods, Mirtle said he doesn't think a deal gets done until July. Said the team has 'tried to get it done' but things were ' at an impass ', he seemed to suggest that the player's camp was looking to readjust due to likely rising cap. And that JT was in a similar situation of no deal yet.

Definitely a bit of speculation on his part but.thought it was interesting nonetheless

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Now that the salary cap is going up so quickly the more important question about Marner is not just his contract demands but can the team win with this core group ? The answer for me is no they can’t but short of trading him which isn’t happening, they definitely need to wait until after the playoffs before making a decision on signing him or not. And then even if they win a round, I wouldn’t sign him to more than a three or four year deal to keep the cost down and maintain some flexibility to build a deeper team. Anything short of a conference final should result in breaking up this core group.
 
People expect too much from marner in the playoffs.

In the past 5 playoffs:
He's still 3rd. on the team in P/PG, .89
Only 18% pf his points in the last 5 playoffs are goals, so if the overall goals scoring is reduced, his points total will be reduced.
His main linemate has scored 13 goals over that period of time, .37 goals per game, whereas Matthews scores .73 goals per game in the regular season past 5 years.

Not sure why the focus should be on marner, when his linemate drops off so dramatically in the post season?
When Matthews goes from .73 G/PG to .37 G/PG the source of points just isn't there.

Regular season same period, he get 31% of his points from goals, 69% of his points are assists.

For me his linemate should be the one to focus on as, over the past 5 playoffs, he's dropped to 2nd. in goals for the team.
The problem with all that is Matthews has a contract and Marner doesn’t. That part of the decision was already made.
 
Thinking about Marner helps calm me down (takes my mind off Trump trying to make Canada the 51st state).
I am the opposite. I was think if US is the 13th province. The Hockey Team would be stacked like we never seen before, lol.

Imagine the 4C of McD, Mack, AM and Eichel
With Makar and Hughes in the back
 
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Hey now - according to @Dekes For Days Marners assists are as important as goals, or even more so! That’s why Bäckström was the real star on the Capitals, and why we’re not interested in Ovie chase for the record in goals


Wasn’t Nylander (and Elias Pettersson , lol) top 5 in scoring g last year at some point? Fully expect you had the same thoughts back then in that case!
Yeah I remember how Oates was continually reviled, and how people wanted Gretxkys 212 thrown out as a record because it was merely 92 goals and how LeaFlanders screamed for the head of Killer and called him a fraud because he managed only 32 goalss in his 127pt season, what a poofter they said an absolute gagging poofter!

Shall I go on?
 
Yeah I remember how Oates was continually reviled, and how people wanted Gretxkys 212 thrown out as a record because it was merely 92 goals and how LeaFlanders screamed for the head of Killer and called him a fraud because he managed only 32 goalss in his 127pt season, what a poofter they said an absolute gagging poofter!

Shall I go on?
I don't remember any of this. Can you provide some sources, quotes, anything at all to back this up because it sure sounds like a bunch of made up nonsense.
 
I am interested in the Ovi record chase. I would like to see him break it. I also wouldn't mind seeing someone break an assist record - even the 100 assists was worth watching and an amzing milestone.
Which you probably know is Gretzkys 163, although the NHL is looking to delegitimize it because you know "assists!"
 

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