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Mitch Marner, Again

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Hellcat said:
Fine to want change, what is YOUR plan?



Do you honestly think that Berube is telling Mitch to play somewhere he is not playing? Besides saying your colorful imaganation, where did you get this?
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I dont think, I know..

Berube has been repeating since day 1 that he wants 2 players at the net at all times. Watch Matthews line when Marner doesnt have the puck...Marner typically is up high.

Berube in post games numerous times repeats that players aren't going to the net enough.
 
thewave said:
Nylander is overpaid at 11.5m should be 9.5m-10m. I dislike his contract but trust he means he wants to be here when we win and love Toronto.

Marner probably should have a wage freeze at 11m but I would go up to about 12m if he gives us a Limited trade clause, even if it's NMC for the first couple years.

I would attempt to see if we could get Sid for Mitch though first. If he says no then you probably have to wait until after the playoffs. If he doesn't have a gold one time for a change regardless
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Based on what metric is Nylander overpaid?
 
Hellcat said:
Based on what metric is Nylander overpaid?
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Comparables outside the organization. Would you rather Willy 11.5m or Necas 6.9m. Rantanen or Nylander? Rantanen was let go of over 250k more in a year with higher cap.

I think that about settles it. Rantanen is better than Marner and Nylander btw. Seems Necas is better than Marner and Nylander as well with his linemates in COL
 
Antropovsky said:
I dont think, I know..

Berube has been repeating since day 1 that he wants 2 players at the net at all times. Watch Matthews line when Marner doesnt have the puck...Marner typically is up high.

Berube in post games numerous times repeats that players aren't going to the net enough.
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You know that Marner is turning Berube into a shrinking flower...? Berube, the guy who hides under the beds of Monsters, has caved to Marners demands and is just letting Mitch do anything he wants ... totally rationale deduction.. yep... totally....can someone get me an adult please?
 
DarkKnight said:
A Leaf scored in OT to give Canada a win. I think I'll spend my day undermining him, yep I'm a normal person.
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Since when is tempering expectations and not being hyperfantastical like a giddy teen undermining? Just saying it wasn't a great showing. He got the goal which is great but it doesn't make a 13m player. Your camp has one mission, overpay Marner and I have a problem with that because it goes against my goal of winning a cup.
 
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thewave said:
But again. Not a 12m 13m player. There is such a large gap in play between them. That is what this is about.

I would trade Mitch 1 for 1 for Sid today and we may go deep in the playoffs for it. Hopefully he would stick around a couple years after.
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this is about whether we would trade Marner for Crosby?
 
leafs in five said:
do you ever get tired of being wrong
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@thewave is wrong...Lol... have you read the main board gdt thread? Marner was the most hated player going into OT.

@Smif was in that thread. @Smif could you enlighten us on what fans were saying? Were people happy with Marners play?

Fact is, if you think Marner was good, then YOU are the minority.
 
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Hellcat said:
Is denial a practice till perfect thing or an innate ability haters are born with?
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Well you should know so just answer your own question.
DarkKnight said:
A Leaf scored in OT to give Canada a win. I think I'll spend my day undermining him, yep I'm a normal person.
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LOLOL. Do tell, how does what anyone says on an internet forum undermine him, or any other hockey player? I'm sure I'm not the only one who's interested in what you have to say on the subject so please, take all the time you need.
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leafs in five said:
this is about whether we would trade Marner for Crosby?
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If only. If that trade were to happen next week, my hopes for the playoffs this spring would instantly go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up.
 
Gary Nylund said:
Well you should know so just answer your own question.

LOLOL. Do tell, how does what anyone says on an internet forum undermine him, or any other hockey player? I'm sure I'm not the only one who's interested in what you have to say on the subject so please, take all the time you need.
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If only. If that trade were to happen next week, my hopes for the playoffs this spring would instantly go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up.
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Didn’t you know that saying Mitchell Marner didn’t have a great game is undermining him?

Great goal, happy to see it, but an honest assessment would say he looked a step behind. Just like in the season, I never put any stock into a goal scored 3 on 3 shinny hockey. Maybe it’s a confidence builder for him.
 
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Antropovsky said:
@thewave is wrong...Lol... have you read the main board gdt thread? Marner was the most hated player going into OT.

@Smif was in that thread. @Smif could you enlighten us on what fans were saying? Were people happy with Marners play?

Fact is, if you think Marner was good, then YOU are the minority.
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Yes the main board. Clearly and historically the best place to get the most honest and nuanced takes on Leafs players.
The coach of team Canada thought Marner was good so I guess he is in the minority but what the hell does he know right?
 
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GoonieFace said:
Didn’t you know that saying Mitchell Marner didn’t have a great game is undermining him?

Great goal, happy to see it, but an honest assessment would say he looked a step behind. Just like in the season, I never put any stock into a goal scored 3 on 3 shinny hockey. Maybe it’s a confidence builder for him.
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See GoonieFace, some of us are talking hockey mixed with some spirit and whipping it up to keep it fun and interesting, not trolling but laying down facts with a little smack. Test group B, you know those other guys approach this like they are the Ferris himself and we are in a boardroom or something.

Deep down they know and I get it you can make a few bucks online to promote things that aren't true. To each their own it's all in good fun. To credit Marner, I have never seen anyone score so much on a muffin shot like that. He has a talent for the offspeed shot from across the pond.
 
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It was a 3 on 3 overtime goal Marner scored yesterday fanboys. That’s right up his alley. Let’s tone it down a little here.


Let me know when he does this in the playoffs, then I will give him his due.
 
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cyris said:
Yes the main board. Clearly and historically the best place to get the most honest and nuanced takes on Leafs players.
The coach of team Canada thought Marner was good so I guess he is in the minority but what the hell does he know right?
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Main board said he sucked - they know nothing
Analysts and former NHL players said he sucked - they know nothing

..... yep everybody is wrong but the small group of Marner fans on the Leaf board. Note that even @Smif in the main board thread agreed that Mcdavid and Marner didn't work well together.

So Marner was great..but he Mcdavid and Marner weren't good together? The only line Marner was on?
 
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Listen to Cooper's full comments on Mitch .. he is bang on correct .. Mitch has trouble in fast up/down games like last night .. now at 3 on 3 things even out as he has more time and space with puck and his edgework and stickhandling can be showcased ,, i was surprised Mitch played with McJesus as they play 2 totally different non-complimentary games .. but give Mitch credit when he went on in OT with Crosby .. he was able to find a lane and Crosby figured it out
 
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