CutOnDime97
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Definitely rooting for the 2 in the East. Wouldn't mind Dallas. Do not want to see Vegas win it.
Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCVI: Third Round (Poll in OP)
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BiggE
SELL THE DAMN TEAM
Canes in 6
Stars in 7
I had the Canes and Stars as my finalists from the beginning, no reason to change it now.
Stars in 7
I had the Canes and Stars as my finalists from the beginning, no reason to change it now.
BackToTheBrierePatch
Eff Cancer
CutOnDime97
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I have never once encountered a Dallas Stars fan IRL and the worst of Cowboys fans are jabronis from the northeast.
BackToTheBrierePatch
Eff Cancer
Those same jabronis are also Notre Dame fans. I just don’t like anything about that city. Actually the whole state is terrible
Beef Invictus
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The most important coverage thingy the NHL needed was getting Emrick off the air.
Hollywood Cannon
I'm Away From My Desk
Yeah but it got Buccigross on the air so... was the cost worth it?
FatTugboatFlahr
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Ghost winning a cup with the Canes is possibly as good as it gets for Flyers fans these days.
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Yes. Emrick was the only thing worse than Collinsworth.
PDX Flyer
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My friend seriously said he missed Emrick calling the games. I need new friends
I will make an apparently unpopular statement and say I liked Emrick. Maybe it's me being nostalgic for him calling the flyers games in the late 80s with Clement
BackToTheBrierePatch
Eff Cancer
Collinsworth is just the worst.
Magua
Entirely Palatable Product
I'll always pull for my adopted Canes, though I worry the clock might strike midnight with their injuries eventually.
But I truly don't mind any of these teams winning. The pace of these conference finals should be terrific. I'm a fan of how Florida acquires and maximizes talent, and they have so many underrated gems. Dallas has some of my favorite players in the league. And Vegas is what the Flyers used to be, just in the era of the Flat Cap. They spend like drunken sailors with the singular purpose of acquiring elite players and elite coaches and contending. And you know what? They do. They're a little too mercurial, but you can never accuse them of low standards.
But I truly don't mind any of these teams winning. The pace of these conference finals should be terrific. I'm a fan of how Florida acquires and maximizes talent, and they have so many underrated gems. Dallas has some of my favorite players in the league. And Vegas is what the Flyers used to be, just in the era of the Flat Cap. They spend like drunken sailors with the singular purpose of acquiring elite players and elite coaches and contending. And you know what? They do. They're a little too mercurial, but you can never accuse them of low standards.
Curufinwe
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Both teams spend to the cap, but Philly just spends it on crap.
The Flyers went out and got Risto. Vegas went out and got Eichel.
The Flyers went out and got Risto. Vegas went out and got Eichel.
Flyerfan4life
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Striiker
Former Flyers Fan
Yeah, John, it's all their fault. Great analysis from a great hockey mind.
There's Bob, Badko and Cousins on Florida still and they actually eliminated two inherently dislikable contenders.
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Cousins like PEB was a guy I wasn't exactly pleased to see go. Seemed like he should become a decent bottom six player. Of course, if he had stayed here they would have ruined him.
GKJ
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In off-ice news, the proposition that led to an arena being built in Tempe for the Coyotes has failed. I’m not surprised, thought we’d need more votes, but that is dead and they do not have a path to a permanent situation.
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Yeah, John, it's all their fault. Great analysis from a great hockey mind.
Matthews was great against Tampa but pretty bad against Florida.
Rich Nixon
No Prior Knowledge of "Flyers"
It sucks for their fans, but it's probably a wise decision for folks in Tempe. When you boiled it down they were basically asking for $500 million in tax breaks on a $750 million arena and asking for the right to find someone else to dump more than a billion dollars into building stuff around it.
All that mixed use residential and commercial space shit was tied to no guarantee. Teams promise all sorts of shit and put out sexy mockups along with their arena plans these days, but that stuff rarely gets built. Little Ceasar's in Detroit is surrounded by parking garages. We're still waiting on that entertainment district in the Philly sports complex that the Flyers promised in the 90s and again in the 00s.
Just put that team somewhere with an arena and a fanbase. Regional TV markets might not even matter much more anyway.
GKJ
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My understanding was that the overwhelming majority of this was privately funded. Did they just think it was too good to be true? The city council wanted to green light this, but you don’t put things to votes if you don’t think it could cost you your job.
The Coyotes weren’t even a central element of the campaign.
Rich Nixon
No Prior Knowledge of "Flyers"
Yeah that's the top-line sales pitch. These are complicated deals and of course they're gonna shout a lot of rah-rah feel-good shit. But at the end of the day, billionaires are billionaires because they're good at getting other people to give them hundreds of millions of dollars every now and then.
The arena was to cost about $700 million and be privately funded--well, in exchange for tax breaks and diversions in the $500 million range. All the hypothetical development around it--the Ferris Wheel and the Senior Center and the Bowling Alley Megachurch or whatever else they got an artist to render--would all be privately funded, were they to actually exist. Again, that's a sales tactic, not a blood oath. This guy, a good writer with a bad site, is an excellent follower of arena funding debacles and breaks it down better than I could.
It's worth noting also that the consulting firm that the Coyotes themselves recently hired to estimate the huge financial benefit this would provide to the city of Tempe actually estimated that those numbers would be, uh, negative.
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