Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCVI: Third Round (Poll in OP)

On third thought, my pick to win the Cup is...


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Tripod

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Some Toronto media- Shanny had all year, then from the deadline, then from the end of playoffs, then last week....and Dubas was tbe guy he wanted. And now in 1 week you change your mind based on $. And now whoever the new GM is, it's a guy that Shanny really didn't think was better than Dubas.

Others- you need new eyes. You fall in love with players and ideas. It wasn't working, and the fact that it was Dubas' contract is why he isn't GM, looks bad on Shanny. And Shanny is about to be on his 4th GM and has had no playoffs success.
 
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Curufinwe

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How Leafs media sees it:

Shanny brought in Dubas
Then stuck out his neck by firing HOF GM Lou
Then fired Babcock so he could hire "his guy"
Shanny wanted Dubas back
But then Agent sent a contract package that was bigger than expected
Then Dubas "only" emailed Shanny saying he wanted the job, didn't even bother calling
Shanny took the email as disrespectful and then changed his mind because he wasn't sure Dubas "really" wanted the job.
Yeah, it was definitely time for their marriage to end.

You can't just be disappointed year after year and keep going back for more. Not when there's so many other options for both sides.
 
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Somewhere in this Dubas mess lies Keefe. Shanahan may have wanted him gone and Dubas wouldn’t fire him. Personally I’m with Rev on Dubas and not crazy about the way Keefe handled the Leafs in the POs. If Dubas told Shanny that it was Dubas/Keefe or nothing, Shanahan was correct to tell Dubas to go walk. I expect Keefe to be dropped into the all gone machine fairly soon.
 
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Tripod

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Yeah, it was definitely time for their marriage to end.

You can't just be disappointed year after year and keep going back for more. Not when there's so many other options for both sides.
But again, Shanny wanted him back...it was only the contract the agent sent to Shanny when it changed. If it was the contract Shanny expected, Dubas would be coach today.

Also...not sure if mentioned. Shanny fired the Marlies coaches. They were 42-24-4 this year. Meanwhile in Philly....
 

TCTC

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Somewhere in this Dubas mess lies Keefe. Shanahan may have wanted him gone and Dubas wouldn’t fire him. Personally I’m with Rev on Dubas and not crazy about the way Keefe handled the Leafs in the POs. If Dubas told Shanny that it was Dubas/Keefe or nothing, Shanahan was correct to tell Dubas to go walk. I expect Keefe to be dropped into the all gone machine fairly soon.
Yeah, Keefe hasn't really shown so far that he can outcoach the opponent on the biggest stage. He's had regular season success, but that should be expected with that roster. Beating a clearly tired Lightning team isn't enough for me.
It was obvious that Keefe was Dubas guy, but refusing to make a change is Hextall level stubbornness.
 

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But again, Shanny wanted him back...it was only the contract the agent sent to Shanny when it changed. If it was the contract Shanny expected, Dubas would be coach today.

Also...not sure if mentioned. Shanny fired the Marlies coaches. They were 42-24-4 this year. Meanwhile in Philly....

What I read in an article (from TSN, I think) was that Shanny watched the Dubas press conference Monday and realized that he didn't really want to continue, and/or this year took too much out of him and his family.
 

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Nonis, Bowman, & Bergevin are all losers that need to stay the hell away.

Yeah, Keefe hasn't really shown so far that he can outcoach the opponent on the biggest stage. He's had regular season success, but that should be expected with that roster. Beating a clearly tired Lightning team isn't enough for me.
It was obvious that Keefe was Dubas guy, but refusing to make a change is Hextall level stubbornness.

Tampa only lost because of Vasi falling apart. Otherwise Toronto would have been out in the 1st again.
 

Magua

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The state of the Coyotes franchise:

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TCTC

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Imagine Dallas and Carolina making it to the final. It would basically be half the Finnish national team on the ice.

Except Puljujarvi. He'll probably be a healthy scratch. You know your time in the NHL is coming to an end when even Carolina can't get anything out of you.
 

Tripod

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Imagine Dallas and Carolina making it to the final. It would basically be half the Finnish national team on the ice.

Except Puljujarvi. He'll probably be a healthy scratch. You know your time in the NHL is coming to an end when even Carolina can't get anything out of you.
One man's trash is another man's gold.

Zack Attack was scratched in LA, and played on our 2nd line at times and was loved by idiots.
 

Blackhawkswincup

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I can not wait for the era of quirky corporate social media accounts to end. Everyone is still trying to be the 2012 Kings Twitter.

Canes twitter is actually pretty good and better then Kings IMO

They have taken several things (Bunch of Jerks, offer sheet drama, etc) and turned in gold content

Same with NJ celeb thing last week
 
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