Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCIV: From Ghost to Hakstol and all things in between

[tucson83]

Hak has the three biggest things he didn’t have here:

- goaltending
- veteran experience from actually useful players
- inability to falsely identify bad depth players as good because they aren’t available to him

bingo, i dont know why fans are having a hard time grasping this because we can easily be one those teams instead of trying to be bad to get this player or that player and it does nothing. like the simple thing to do is get playoff depth players on reasonable contracts that will buy in and we dont have to worry about making the playoffs and winning more rounds than colorado, edmonton, and toronto.

for some reason they would rather be here than be them.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Hak has the three biggest things he didn’t have here:

- goaltending
- veteran experience from actually useful players
- inability to falsely identify bad depth players as good because they aren’t available to him

He had 1 and 2, definitely never 3.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Tyrell Ghoulbourne. The legendary 2013 draft list leak will never die.

Tony Deangelo. 2022 offseason.

 

[Beef Invictus]

bingo, i dont know why fans are having a hard time grasping this because we can easily be one those teams instead of trying to be bad to get this player or that player and it does nothing. like the simple thing to do is get playoff depth players on reasonable contracts that will buy in and we dont have to worry about making the playoffs and winning more rounds than colorado, edmonton, and toronto.

for some reason they would rather be here than be them.

No we cannot easily be one of those teams. We can't magically transform piles of shit into decent and good players. Especially when the entire organizational mindset is that it is good they are piles of shit because they have to try harder.

They also don't have to try to be bad. They are terrible without trying.

 

[ajgoal]

Aside from Edmonton, the first round couldn't have broken much better for me. One of the Rags/Debs was going to advance anyway. I'd still prefer the Debs but I don't want either to get past the next round so it's six of one there.

As long as NJ/NY and Edmonton lose I'm good with whoever winning, I guess Toronto and Canes would be the preference though.

Credit to Seattle winning but this wasn’t last years Avs. No Landeskog, no viable 2nd line, a worse starting goalie than last year and coming off a late season injury I doubt Makar was anywhere near 100%.

Seattle is a good team and they play hard but I don’t think they get past Edmonton.

I see Dallas vs Edmonton in the West and Carolina vs Toronto in the East. In the final, I have Dallas over Carolina with Oettinger winning the Smythe.

Seattle plays Dallas. Edmonton loses to Vegas.

 

[wankstifier]

Makes sense. Boston has shit taste in everything else, why not music, too.

I just want to know who you think the top 2 from Seattle are

 

[Danko]

ABT.

 

[BiggE]

Aside from Edmonton, the first round couldn't have broken much better for me. One of the Rags/Debs was going to advance anyway. I'd still prefer the Debs but I don't want either to get past the next round so it's six of one there.

As long as NJ/NY and Edmonton lose I'm good with whoever winning, I guess Toronto and Canes would be the preference though.

Seattle plays Dallas. Edmonton loses to Vegas.

Lol, i should never post before coffee and weed. But I still think it’s Dallas over Carolina in the final.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Credit to Seattle winning but this wasn’t last years Avs. No Landeskog, no viable 2nd line, a worse starting goalie than last year and coming off a late season injury I doubt Makar was anywhere near 100%.

Seattle is a good team and they play hard but I don’t think they get past Edmonton.

I see Dallas vs Edmonton in the West and Carolina vs Toronto in the East. In the final, I have Dallas over Carolina with Oettinger winning the Smythe.

I think Dallas over Toronto. I don't think Carolina will make it past either of NY or NJ but I'd like to be wrong (well, I don't care if they lose to New Jersey honestly, I like Hughes and Vitek even if he's been yanked already).

 

[Danko]

Seeing people bury Newhook in Trade boards....wasn't he untouchable in the Giroux trade rumors?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Boston loves losing game 7s huh..

 

[deadhead]

bingo, i dont know why fans are having a hard time grasping this because we can easily be one those teams instead of trying to be bad to get this player or that player and it does nothing. like the simple thing to do is get playoff depth players on reasonable contracts that will buy in and we dont have to worry about making the playoffs and winning more rounds than colorado, edmonton, and toronto.

for some reason they would rather be here than be them.

There's a balance, Flyers need to build up organizational depth and accumulate assets.
They don't necessarily need to tank for five years, but they need a lot more talent than they have now, and then you can focus on short-term moves to be more competitive.

But they're three years away from that point.

Well, maybe we are better off with the 2024 pick and Tippett than FLA's 2023 pick and Newhook?

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Aside from Edmonton, the first round couldn't have broken much better for me. One of the Rags/Debs was going to advance anyway. I'd still prefer the Debs but I don't want either to get past the next round so it's six of one there.

As long as NJ/NY and Edmonton lose I'm good with whoever winning, I guess Toronto and Canes would be the preference though.

See, this guy knows what's what.

 

[Chinatown88]

See below

 

[RANKKA]

double edit lol

 

[Chinatown88]

Wdym too slow?

 

[Gregor Samsa]

All I’d like is to see a SCF game 7 OT. I wonder how many people alive have ever seen one

It would be nice to see Toronto lose in some type of heartbreaking or fashion that enrages the fans, like blowing a big lead or a blown call that leads to a huge goal. I can see the 5 part thread even now. I don’t have anything against Leaf players but since they are a large fanbase they have more obnoxious fans.

 

[landsbergfan]

 

[Beef Invictus]

Offensive mastermind Tortorella has taken managements roster vision and has the Flyers at 24th.

 

[RANKKA]

Wdym too slow?

wait we both edited LOL, i was slow so i edited

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

All I’d like is to see a SCF game 7 OT. I wonder how many people alive have ever seen one

The last time it happened was 1954, so not many posters here, that's for sure.

 

[Chinatown88]

wait we both edited LOL, i was slow so i edited

Dang we're geniuses.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Offensive mastermind Tortorella has taken managements roster vision and has the Flyers at 24th.

hey you cant just fill the net with pucks you know.

thats not how games are won..

oh wait...

 

[Curufinwe]

It Sutter can be fired, so can Torts. Do it, Danny boy.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

The last time it happened was 1954, so not many posters here, that's for sure.

For some reason I was thinking Dallas-New Jersey in 2000 was 7 games. Crazy it's been so long.