Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LVII: Countdown to June 2nd and the draft lottery

[Beef Invictus]

Two points -

1) there are intangibles that matter, especially on young teams, a kid comes up and sees Giroux's dedication, that has an impact. When the clubhouse is full of self-starters, it sets the tone for the rest of the team, when there's a critical mass of high motor players, other players are less likely to take a shift off. When athletes make so much money at a young age, they need to be driven by competitive drive. Sometimes this is a maturity issue, Embiid went from a clown to killer when he realized that once you have money, it's not fun unless you win.

2) winning teams can patch over personality conflicts - but a toxic clubhouse often leads to teams imploding when the going gets tough.

Another positive example: Jagr.

As to point 2, that's something that goes beyond a single player though. And that's my big objection here; the idea that McDavid's intangibles are the make or break point. It's like if Clarke had ended up on that 74 Caps team; his vaunted leadership skills aren't salvaging that roster, nor should anyone think less of him for not managing an impossibility. But per the Intangible Method of analysis, he should be blamed. The notion that McDavid should be able to "leadership" hard enough to erase a stream of roster deficiencies and counter good goaltending is goofiness at best.

There's a hard limit on the wonders of intangibility.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

The cherry on top of this beautiful sundae is the spelling of his name

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Nashville winning this series goes a long way to a nightmare final 4 of Tampa, Toronto, Boston and Vegas.

The three teams I least want to win a Cup outside the East Division that are still alive, plus a member of the East Division that isn't the Flyers.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

The cherry on top of this beautiful sundae is the spelling of his name

F***ing hell. I used Twitter instead of Google. Motherf***.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

“If I’m the hurricanes right now, I’m getting traffic in front of the net!”


COME ON ANSON, WE TRIED THAT AND THEY WAVED THE GOAL OFF

 

[DancingPanther]

We also have to listen to Regis blow his load over every stoppage tonight. Literally every whistle. "Another stoppage. We haven't seen this many stoppages in any playoff game this season. This is part of Nashville's plan. This is a well coached team trying to disrupt Carolina's rhythm."

Every single whistle

Bouncing off what I said earlier it's so crazy how he just fixates on one thing every game. It's crazy. He always has that one thing on a game to game basis. Of course he also has an overarching manga of anti-analytics, but I'm taking the game to game fixations in particular

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

These "songs" NBCSN uses are so embarrassing.

 

[ajgoal]

These "songs" NBCSN uses are so embarrassing.

They use Regis. They don't get embarrassed.

 

[Rebels57]

We also have to listen to Regis blow his load over every stoppage tonight. Literally every whistle. "Another stoppage. We haven't seen this many stoppages in any playoff game this season. This is part of Nashville's plan. This is a well coached team trying to disrupt Carolina's rhythm."

Every single whistle

He just did it again

 

[DancingPanther]

He just did it again

It's relentless

 

[Beef Invictus]

Watching all this possession driven hockey and remembering the goat-holing we watching all year makes me angry.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Another positive example: Jagr.

As to point 2, that's something that goes beyond a single player though. And that's my big objection here; the idea that McDavid's intangibles are the make or break point. It's like if Clarke had ended up on that 74 Caps team; his vaunted leadership skills aren't salvaging that roster, nor should anyone think less of him for not managing an impossibility. But per the Intangible Method of analysis, he should be blamed. The notion that McDavid should be able to "leadership" hard enough to erase a stream of roster deficiencies and counter good goaltending is goofiness at best.

There's a hard limit on the wonders of intangibility.

The best player to ever play needed a supporting cast of Messier, Coffey, Kurri, Anderson, etc. to win championships. He never won one again after leaving those guys.

Those LA teams were a drastic step down.

 

[DancingPanther]

MARTY

THAT WAS SICK

 

[Rebels57]

Incredible goal by Necas

Another player drafted AFTER Patrick that I would give my left nut to have instead of him. Patrick probably doesnt even go Top 15 in a Re-Draft. Hooray.

Funny enough we were talking about Necas at 13th overall before we "won" the lottery. Turns out he wouldnt have been on the board still though.

Not sure what happened to Saros there

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

MARTY

THAT WAS SICK

NEČAS IS SPEED IN HUMAN FORM

 

[DancingPanther]

NEČAS IS SPEED IN HUMAN FORM

 

[DancingPanther]

Lol no trip on Nino there? Yeesh

 

[BringBackHakstol]

These refs are keeping Nashville in this game

 

[Beef Invictus]

I was unsure of venting Cousins into the vacuum of Arizona. He keeps putting himself in place to get good looks in this series.

 

[DancingPanther]

These refs are keeping Nashville in this game

With all the stoppages of course

 

[DancingPanther]

"Basically overtime right now johnny!"

Just like how it's basically game 7

 

[Rebels57]

Josi had to shoot that

 

[Beef Invictus]

You can't lose to a team dripping with the residue of Erat. You just can't.