NHL Talk Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CIX: Processing a Tremendous Amount of Insane Information

[JojoTheWhale]

Do we ever get reports of the Flyers being in on a good target?

I don’t think you’re being fair here. We hear that at least weekly.

Unfortunately it’s through someone telling us what Briere meant to say.

 

[GKJ]

The Kings also won with Lombardi considering actively blowing it, followed by him successfully blowing it shortly after. Their specific modus operandi happened to align perfectly with a shift in the sport that favored how they were built and played, too. That shift went the opposite way and they didn't even try to adapt. Pretending you can build like that deliberately is silly.

It's like citing the Blues as a meaningful model you can recreate. They're what, the only team that has ever won following their model? And it was one-off contention.

Lombardi was very close to getting fired in 2012.

They were analytical darlings though.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Probably not. But they paid a fine price for what he is. It’s basically impossible to lose this trade. Stranger things have happened. Maybe he’s Bennett, maybe he’s perma-plateaued. I’m very much OK with continually taking low risk bets like this over trading comparable value for Erik Johnson and re-signing Seeler. I think it’s somewhat fitting it’s an expansion team that acquired him.



Their Giroux target. Maybe they preferred him to Tippett! Even the trades they don’t make showcase they don’t know what they’re looking for. Do we ever get reports of the Flyers being in on a good target?

Shea Weber?

 

[deadhead]

Kakko has limited upside, below average speed, doesn't seem especially skillful.
Maybe he can become more consistent and be a solid 3RW.
Flyers wouldn't have been interested with their logjam at RW and desire for more, not less, speed.

 

[Lord Defect]

Kakko has limited upside, below average speed, doesn't seem especially skillful.
Maybe he can become more consistent and be a solid 3RW.
Flyers wouldn't have been interested with their logjam at RW and desire for more, not less, speed.

You’re telling me you wouldn’t want a 23 year old #2 overall that has just over a year on his contract as trade bait in the off season or next trade deadline while you’re rebuilding?

 

[deadhead]

You’re telling me you wouldn’t want a 23 year old #2 overall that has just over a year on his contract as trade bait in the off season or next trade deadline while you’re rebuilding?

Trade bait? He's going to be a RFA, and he just got traded for a 3rd pair D-man and a 3rd rd pick.
What are the odds he's worth that much in a year?

 

[Cody Webster]

Trade bait? He's going to be a RFA, and he just got traded for a 3rd pair D-man and a 3rd rd pick.
What are the odds he's worth that much in a year?

Probably the same odds as Ghost being packaged with a second to get rid of him and then another team trading a third for him

 

[kudymen]

If they’re trying to emulate Carolina, they’re failing spectacularly.

I know what front office of the two I much rather have.

I will paraphrase Jon Stewart here. "If they are trying to emulate Carolina, they are dyslexic"

 

[Lord Defect]

Trade bait? He's going to be a RFA, and he just got traded for a 3rd pair D-man and a 3rd rd pick.
What are the odds he's worth that much in a year?

I thought pieces had more value in the off season or closer to their contract being up.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I thought pieces had more value in the off season or closer to their contract being up.

points in Sept. dont matter either..

#protip...

 

[BernieParent]

Their Giroux target. Maybe they preferred him to Tippett! Even the trades they don’t make showcase they don’t know what they’re looking for. Do we ever get reports of the Flyers being in on a good target?

Ryan Ellis.

 

[Curufinwe]

2026 draft eligible

https://thehockeynews.com/ncaa/latest-news/vladimir-provorov-commits-to-ohio-state

 

[VladDrag]

Luke Schenn generated 1.18 xG from those 6 shots

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[Flyerfan4life]

thats not good ol honest hockey...

 

[BillDineen]

thats not good ol honest hockey...

... thought the triumvirate and then realized Girard is also a small D and immediately sent Andrae to LHV

 

[FLYguy3911]

At least we aren’t Buffalo.

 

[deadhead]

The team that is really bad is Anaheim, they're getting great goalie play from Dostal and they still suck. Imagine how bad they'll be if he cools off.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Still have more RW than the Flyers by a nearly 30% margin!

See, I can shit post with stats too!

 

[Lord Defect]

The team that is really bad is Anaheim, they're getting great goalie play from Dostal and they still suck. Imagine how bad they'll be if he cools off.

Almost like the flyers with Hart in the net?

 

[Strawberry Fields]

John Carlson now has four goals waved off this season for goalie interference

 

[deadhead]

-0.97 (xGA-GA/60). That's peak Shesterkin good.
Which is probably why it's unsustainable.
He's a solid prospect, but nothing in his past suggests elite goalie.
Last year +0.21.

 

[freakydallas13]

-0.97 (xGA-GA/60). That's peak Shesterkin good.
Which is probably why it's unsustainable.
He's a solid prospect, but nothing in his past suggests elite goalie.
Last year +0.21.

Maybe if you explain nicely to Dostal that he wasn't this good in the past, he'll correct this egregious oversight and play the way your spreadsheet tells him to.

 

[Cody Webster]

He's at it again

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

He's at it again

What an absolute jackass. As a Matthew he makes me want to go by my middle name.