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[Beef Invictus]

Given we're starting the 2nd year of the rebuild . . .

After spinning our wheels for a decade when Holmgren refused after the Carter/Richards trade, Hextall stopped after the Coburn/Kimmo trades, CF after the Giroux trade.

So all that shit is water under the bridge.

They haven't even started the first year of the rebuild, much less entered a second year. There is no rebuild, and there was never going to be one. Jones even admitted it is a lie, and all their actions match that.

And, according to your assertions, this should be more like Year 4. Nice to see you subtly admit that all that time we told you they weren't rebuilding, we were right.

 

[freakydallas13]

They haven't even started the first year of the rebuild, much less entered a second year. There is no rebuild, and there was never going to be one. Jones even admitted it is a lie, and all their actions match that.

And, according to your assertions, this should be more like Year 4. Nice to see you subtly admit that all that time we told you they weren't rebuilding, we were right.

I do love the implication that Fletcher was rebuilding up to and including the the Giroux trade. This means the Risto trade was actually a rebuilding move!

 

[deadhead]

I do love the implication that Fletcher was rebuilding up to and including the the Giroux trade. This means the Risto trade was actually a rebuilding move!

Huh, what?

The point was the Giroux trade should have been the first move of a rebuild, the same way the Carter/Richards trades and the Kimmo/Coburn trades.

Each time, the FO pulled back b/c one mustn't use the word "rebuild."

 

[Curufinwe]

Trading a 1st, two 2nds, a 7th and Hagg to acquire a 27 year old RHD just screams "rebuild".

https://capwages.com/trades/2021-22

Jul. 23, 2021

PHI​

• RD Rasmus Ristolainen

BUF​

• 20021 1st Round
• 2023 2nd Round
• LD Robert Hagg

Jul. 22, 2021

PHI​

• Future Considerations

UTA​

• 2022 2nd Round
• 2022 7th Round
• LD Shayne Gostisbehere

 

[freakydallas13]

Huh, what?

The point was the Giroux trade should have been the first move of a rebuild, the same way the Carter/Richards trades and the Kimmo/Coburn trades.

Each time, the FO pulled back b/c one mustn't use the word "rebuild."

I mean I could be misinterpreting what you said, but it appears to read "CF [stopped rebuilding] after the Giroux trade", which, yeah. Pretty wild claim.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Chuck never started. Neither has Briere.

Be wary of all these firsts they have. They'll think they can afford to buy at the deadline regardless of where they stand. "We don't have to move Laughton, we have enough picks" is also in play.

 

[deadhead]

Just b/c you want them to tank, doesn't mean they're not rebuilding.
They've dumped most of the veterans from two years ago, and have one of the youngest teams in the league, a solid prospect pipeline and accumulated a stash for the 2025 draft.

They're a year away from looking for "compression" trades, where the focus becomes adding top of the lineup players b/c they have enough depth they don't have to fill out the roster with waiver wire scrubs.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Just b/c you want them to tank, doesn't mean they're not rebuilding.
They've dumped most of the veterans from two years ago, and have one of the youngest teams in the league, a solid prospect pipeline and accumulated a stash for the 2025 draft.

They're a year away from looking for "compression" trades, where the focus becomes adding top of the lineup players b/c they have enough depth they don't have to fill out the roster with waiver wire scrubs.

What I want has nothing to do with it. They simply are not rebuilding. They admitted it too.

They have never been rebuilding. You've already retconned away all those "rebuilding" years we told you were happening under Fletcher, and you insisted were.

3-5 years from now you'll be doing the same thing. "Now that Briere is gone we can finally start the rebuild" and this is important to note, they won't be doing it then, either.

 

[freakydallas13]

Just b/c you want them to tank, doesn't mean they're not rebuilding.

Alternatively, just because you think they are rebuilding, doesn't mean this rebuild isn't half assed and rife to start "competing" the second this team sniffs the playoffs.