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[Random Forest]

Does Farabee really need a 1st attached to him to return McGroarty?

McGroarty is not some sure bet to be a better player at all. Similar draft capital (for whatever that’s worth at this point on Farabee) and Farabee had identical collegiate production. Age shouldn’t be a factor because Farabee is young and even better suited to Winnipeg’s timeline. And signed long term which is valuable in itself for a destination like Winnipeg…

Seems like poor value. I think straight up isn’t a bad basis for a deal for either side tbh.

 

[thedjpd]

Does Farabee really need a 1st attached to him to return McGroarty?

McGroarty is not some sure bet to be a better player at all. Similar draft capital (for whatever that’s worth at this point on Farabee) and Farabee had identical collegiate production. Age shouldn’t be a factor because Farabee is young and even better suited to Winnipeg’s timeline. And signed long term which is valuable in itself for a destination like Winnipeg…

Seems like poor value. I think straight up isn’t a bad basis for a deal for either side tbh.

Agreed.

I'd want to add to Farabee to get Perfetti and McGroarty though - don't know if that's possible.

Farabee + TK for Perfetti, McGroarty, 2025 1st + cap dump.

Jets have older players signed to long term contracts, I don't think they want picks + prospects and their fans have said as much. Would be a good trading partner for us.

 

[GKJ]

Maybe Joel F + 32 for Rutger M


Was it the Roughriders or the Rough Riders?

Baltimore Stallions

That works for me, too, but I fully expect they'll want to move money, and I'm damn sure not giving up Farabee and 32 AND taking a contract back. There are limits to my flights of fancy.



It was the Baltimore CFL {REDACTED}, though I think they were legally called the Stallions by that point.

Officially, they were Baltimore CFL Club once the injunction was upheld, and then changed their name to Stallions for the second season, which they won, and then moved to Montreal of obvious reasons.

 

[GKJ]

Does Farabee really need a 1st attached to him to return McGroarty?

McGroarty is not some sure bet to be a better player at all. Similar draft capital (for whatever that’s worth at this point on Farabee) and Farabee had identical collegiate production. Age shouldn’t be a factor because Farabee is young and even better suited to Winnipeg’s timeline. And signed long term which is valuable in itself for a destination like Winnipeg…

Seems like poor value. I think straight up isn’t a bad basis for a deal for either side tbh.

He doesn't, but Winnipeg wants to make a bigger deal, and get into the 1st round.

I'm not sure what else they'd have to offer us besides guys like Heinola or Perfetti who I don't think they want to move.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Prospect trade!

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805664498046394864

No idea what Kiiskanen looked like this year but I’m pretty sure Gibson is JAG. Like this for Detroit. Guess he wouldn’t sign.

edit: I'm an idiot. He signed a couple months ago. This was to facilitate the Walman move.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

The ol’ Ghost trade.

 

[ajgoal]

The ol’ Ghost trade.

Which as we know was the precursor to obtaining Ristolainen.

C'mon Wings, DO IT.

 

[GKJ]

Which as we know was the precursor to obtaining Ristolainen.

C'mon Wings, DO IT.

They already used it to dump Walman



Yzerman getting ready to cook

 

[ajgoal]

They already used it to dump Walman



Yzerman getting ready to cook

That's what I'm saying.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Could be a Gostisbehere like scenario for SJ. The Goodrow move was awful but this is a worthwhile trade for them. They already have the second rounder but could look for some bounceback potential to flip him again in the coming years.

 

[Sombastate]

To me this screams "we're making a run at Stamkos or Saros"

Seider is gonna get PAID. And so is Raymond.

 

[GKJ]

To me this screams "we're making a run at Stamkos or Saros"

Seider is gonna get PAID. And so is Raymond.

I wonder about Saros, but also they just made a trade with each other

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Did Chuck Fletcher and Steve Yzerman have a Freaky Friday moment or something?

Cause this is like Chuck Fletcher is in charge of Wings suddenly

 

[TheKingPin]

Looks like a sellers market could be shaping up. TK, Laughton, Risto all gone in a week.

Keep Farabee

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Sombastate]

I wonder about Saros, but also they just made a trade with each other

oh yeah, valid point. Didn't consider that.

 

[ponder719]

Looks like a sellers market could be shaping up. TK, Laughton, Risto all gone in a week.

Keep Farabee

At a minimum, trade the first three, please, but I'm not so attached to Farabee that I feel it's necessary to hold on to him as well. If you can get a worthy deal, don't hold back.

 

[TheKingPin]

At a minimum, trade the first three, please, but I'm not so attached to Farabee that I feel it's necessary to hold on to him as well. If you can get a worthy deal, don't hold back.

I think you only get ripped off for Farabee. I think he’s a 60 pt young player on a good deal for awhile. I’d keep him.

 

[Rebels57]

So not to be an asshole, but does bettman have Parkinsons? Did anyone else notice all the tremors he was having?

That's been going over for at least 5 years.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Roenick before Mogilny is a choice.

 

[Curufinwe]

Looks like a sellers market could be shaping up. TK, Laughton, Risto all gone in a week.

Keep Farabee

How is it a sellers market if Detroit just paid a 2nd to move a better dman than Risto on a cheaper contract?

Even at 50% Risto's contract is arguably worse - 3 x $2.55m vs 2 x $3.4m for Walman

 

[TheKingPin]

How is it a sellers market if Detroit just paid a 2nd to move a better dman than Risto on a cheaper contract?

Even at 50% Risto's contract is arguably worse - 3 x $2.55m vs 2 x $3.4m for Walman

Selling cap space

 

[GKJ]

Wonder if Red Wings are going for Gibson. That one might get Yzerman fired.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The Wallman trade to me really does mirror the Gostisbehere situation here where the team overreacted to a bad season(s) & then devalued the said player in the process to the point they were paying to get rid of the player.

 

[GKJ]

Ironically enough, one of the reasons they did it appears to be able to re-sign Gostisbehere