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[BiggE]

Edit: Re-signing Erik Johnson is a move I dislike but at least the Flyers didn't do anything majorly stupid today.

 

[renberg]

They will be ~90 points again, you can almost write that in stone.

I doubt this. Teams such as NJ, Buffalo, and others who were at the same level as the Flyers last season have improved. The Flyers have not. One can not rely on injuries or poor coaching by opponents to elevate them in the standings. Teams usually start the next season in the manner that they finished the last one. AIR, the last dozen or so Flyers games were badly played.
The Flyers are a very fragile club. If they falter, Tortorella will do his usual burn it to the ground act and blame the players for his failures. He’s done this each of the last two seasons as he did in Vancouver and with the Rangers. Mitchkov aside, it’s not going to be a good season.

 

[Random Forest]

Perhaps it’s the optimist in me, but I can envision a plausible (but still unlikely) scenario where they are a playoff team next year. The three biggest factors are:

1) Sanheim-York: Are they a bona fide top pair? Does York take another step forward? They’ll be competitive most nights if they can handle ~25-26 minutes a game of generally average top pair performance.

2) Goaltending: If Errson/Fedotov can split the load (or if Kolosov emerges as a viable NHL goaltender), they should remain competitive. If not, the bottom could fall out.

3) PP: If it’s any better than historically-awful *and* the above are true, they will probably be a playoff team.

Drysdale and Frost showing meaningful improvement are also factors. We can laugh about Frost getting the opportunities, but I’m not sure Tortorella will have a choice next year. Michkov will need a skilled line mate. It feels like Frost is poised for a break out season.

But if those three conditions are met, I give them better than even odds at making the playoffs.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The Flyers are a very fragile club. If they falter, Tortorella will do his usual burn it to the ground act and blame the players for his failures. He’s done this each of the last two seasons as he did in Vancouver and with the Rangers. Mitchkov aside, it’s not going to be a good season.

Yeah and unlike his previous stops the management group will agree with Torts that it was the players fault. They are running this group back again sans Michkov.

 

[BillDineen]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807756943500431769

.... can't wait for TK

 

[FLYguy3911]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808146551866298440

 

[mr figgles]

Lots of drama in New York. I would love to help the Rangers and Troubas out for a hefty price.

 

[ponder719]

Lots of drama in New York. I would love to help the Rangers and Troubas out for a hefty price.

I don't know that Philly is close enough to suit their needs, it feels like they're really looking to end up with the Isles or Devils if he's moved so that he can be home with their kid while she's at work, but I would absolutely do something like Ristolainen and Johansen for Trouba and a prospect or a future third. We save a million bucks actual cash this year (we would have to figure out what to do since we can't LTIR Trouba like we could RyJo), get rid of the Johansen problem, and while we're on the hook for an extra $3M next year, we save $5M in 26-27. (and maybe more, because it sounds like Trouba's "can't leave New York" problem goes away after one more year, so maybe we can trade him to Detroit in 25-26.)

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

@JojoTheWhale

 

[Chinatown88]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808181556324061210

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[JojoTheWhale]

@JojoTheWhale

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808181556324061210

He signed for less than Erik Johnson.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

He signed for less than Erik Johnson.

Would he have taken less from the Flyers though? Probably had little interest at in coming here.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

He signed for less than Erik Johnson.

wins in the margins are for Nerds..

 

[Curufinwe]

Angelo is still available

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

He signed for less than Erik Johnson.

People were wondering how they would fill out their roster with little cap space.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

People were wondering how they would fill out their roster with little cap space.

What's with the de Haan pic?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

What's with the de Haan pic?

I think it was like some kid type of thing Carolina did where the kids tried to draw the players or some shit & that was the funniest looking one so it became a meme amongst hockey twitter for a bit there.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Curufinwe]

Apparently the Sens moved Joseph because of off-ice reasons, aka too much partying.

 

[GKJ]

Faksa had zero value?

Apparently the Sens moved Joseph because of off-ice reasons, aka too much partying.

Makes sense why those rumors disappeared, although the Flyers wanted more.

 

[GKJ]

Big commitment to a guy who was in trade rumors all year

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Di Marco.

 

[GKJ]

 

[Beef Invictus]

They need to find a Center coach and get to work. Positions are kind of dumb anyway at this point. Faceoffs aren’t as important as originally thought. Just hustle back and then play your game with skill. Makes position based drafting that much more dumb

Lavi has been leaning towards positionless forwards for ages now. Hartnell and Briere swapping positions when he was here, and in Washington he shifted his left wing lock to just a wing lock, where the weak side winger was meant to take defensive duties. In practice it was often just "weakest side forward." Winger, center, whoever. By the time Lavi departed us I would never have expected to find watching his team's backcheck to be the most interesting thing.

Gimme some of that