Kurtz
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Love Zach, but if there is a team out there dumb enough to give him 6x6 they will regret it almost immediately.
Mirtle: End is near for Hyman in Toronto
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BeLeafing
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It will badly hurt to lose him, but quite honestly if he isn't willing to give us a sizeable discount it's not within the best interests of the team to re-sign him. Paying 5.5+ million for ages ~29-34 Zach Hyman likely won't be a worthwhile investment.
This is a big offseason, and with Kerfoot most likely taken in expansion as well as Andersen/Hyman gone there will be money available. Management has to do a better job at finding depth forwards to surround the core than they did last offseason.
This is a big offseason, and with Kerfoot most likely taken in expansion as well as Andersen/Hyman gone there will be money available. Management has to do a better job at finding depth forwards to surround the core than they did last offseason.
DarkKnight
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The guy was a beast on the boards, a dog on a bone. For a team that needs more of these players, it’s about as big a loss as you can stomach, apart from the Big 4.
Mats13
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Whoever gives him this contract will regret it
He’s declining and coming off two bad knee injuries
Given how his style will age, I’m thankful that we won’t be stuck with his cap hit
He’s declining and coming off two bad knee injuries
Given how his style will age, I’m thankful that we won’t be stuck with his cap hit
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Will always like Hyman, and if he leaves I'll be sad. But the Leafs could have 20 mil in extra capspace this offseason and I wouldn't want to give him that type of contract.
His playing style is visibly taking a toll in his body. Two seasons/playoffs in a row he's looked run down by the end of them.
His playing style is visibly taking a toll in his body. Two seasons/playoffs in a row he's looked run down by the end of them.
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Letting Hyman go is a good cap decision and whomever getting him at an overpayment is at risk of a Okposo, Ladd, Clarkson style decline as he enters his early 30s.
But it also be true that the Leafs are bleeding out character players and culture with no suitable in house replacement and it’s a question whether or not they can get a younger, cheaper replacement. The idea of an upgrade seems like a long shot.
The Leafs are at a dead end and I wouldn’t be surprised if they took a few steps back next season and could really miss the playoffs unless a lot of restructuring happens.
But it also be true that the Leafs are bleeding out character players and culture with no suitable in house replacement and it’s a question whether or not they can get a younger, cheaper replacement. The idea of an upgrade seems like a long shot.
The Leafs are at a dead end and I wouldn’t be surprised if they took a few steps back next season and could really miss the playoffs unless a lot of restructuring happens.
I like Tavares as well, but his signing was not necessary, and certainly not at $11M. The snowball effect has been, and continues to be, crippling.
TheDoldrums
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You don't overpay guys like Hyman into their 30s, you find the next Hyman for cheap. Thats the challenge now.
But yeah with every development it's more frustrating how the team wasted the opportunity this year.
But yeah with every development it's more frustrating how the team wasted the opportunity this year.
DarkKnight
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Yep, cap wise makes sense with our terrible predicament. But, the bottom line is the team is worse off without him, I doubt you’re finding a status quo or upgrade for 2.25 mil in cap space, and there is no in house replacement. So, we can comfort ourselves thinking whomever signs him over pays, but that doesn’t detract from the point, we’re worse when he leaves.
DavePoulin4PM
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Hyman makes whatever line he is on better and is the only player on this roster who never takes a shift off.
Hard worker and high character. Of course the Leafs will let him walk. Would you expect anything else?
Hard worker and high character. Of course the Leafs will let him walk. Would you expect anything else?
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The problem is not avoiding overpayment, there just isn’t anything in the pipeline to replace the Kadris/Johnson’s/Kaps/Hymans/etc.
The core is suspect IMO are we are living off UFA shopping and high picks to support that.
It's downhill from here. This year was our best chance, cap wise and division wise. We are f***ed lol. Sucks to see Hyman go but we knew it was coming. Someone give me a reason to be optimistic for next year please.
My post from February 15th, 2021:
I would trade Hyman if we got a good return for him. I think he'll be too expensive to resign. And with Thornton, Simmonds, and Robertson... I think we can spare Hyman when they're all back in the lineup.
I do like Hyman now... but I think we could live without him if we got a good return. I certainly don't want to pay him $4+ million to resign him. Someone might even pay him more than $5 million. So I would trade him now while he has value and get a nice return, rather than lose him for nothing next year.
If the Leafs were to trade anyone on the roster right now, who is on the block?
I would trade Hyman if we got a good return for him. I think he'll be too expensive to resign. And with Thornton, Simmonds, and Robertson... I think we can spare Hyman when they're all back in the lineup.
I do like Hyman now... but I think we could live without him if we got a good return. I certainly don't want to pay him $4+ million to resign him. Someone might even pay him more than $5 million. So I would trade him now while he has value and get a nice return, rather than lose him for nothing next year.
If the Leafs were to trade anyone on the roster right now, who is on the block?
Kurtz
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If you had the choice today, would you rather sign JT for 4 x 11 (his remaining term) or Hyman for 6 x 6 ?
Love Hyman. But unfortunately, times do come when you have to move on from certain players
Will love him around $3.5 to 4.5 million
But beyond that, that will be too much
He brings something this team lacks, tenacity. But that alone can't get you top 6 minutes.
Will love him around $3.5 to 4.5 million
But beyond that, that will be too much
He brings something this team lacks, tenacity. But that alone can't get you top 6 minutes.
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Because this board is overrun by Dubas and Shanahan haters atm. They would rather be right than have a good team.
They could not sign Hyman and there will be outrage
They could sign him and the same people will be upset for the opposite reason
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56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
Rangers signed Panarin for 11.6m AAV. Are they in cap hell or is somebody over there capable of not shooting himself in the face by giving in to a greedy winger ??
DarkKnight
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And the pipeline is about to go dry, these lack of picks are going to catch up with us in a couple years. Every which way you look, the future is challenging.
Mats13
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How about you wait to see what we do in the off season before whining about next years team?
This board is unreadable these days.
We still have talent on the roster and we’ll have like 15-20M in cap space this summer. We could see a way different team next season.
The Blueprint
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A good reason to be optimistic about next year is that covid is hopefully done and we can do stuff other than watch this team.
Reg season means nothing and I don't know if we even make the playoffs next year. How could this team possibly be confident after that playoff disaster??
If you told me 5 years ago this is where we would be.....yikes.
Babs was right, there will be pain
DarkKnight
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That’s just silly, rather than debate the predicament you’re actually saying people want us to fail. Ya okay, I felt great after Game 7. Bullocks. We failed, there are consequences.
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