Minnesota Wild General Discussion X

[Wild11MN]

Obviously we don't need advanced stats to tell us he's bad, but here's another chart.


And the always hilarious bottom-left of this one.

 

[Bazeek]

Obviously we don't need advanced stats to tell us he's bad, but here's another chart.


And the always hilarious bottom-left of this one.

Get your **** together, Spurgeon.

 

[2Pair]

Get your **** together, Spurgeon.

What's is Spurgeon's expected pucks deflected out of play/60 looking like this year?

 

[Bazeek]

What's is Spurgeon's expected pucks deflected out of play/60 looking like this year?

Unacceptably low. Always the first thing to go after signing the big contract

 

[TaLoN]

 

[Drewcifer]

The Wild are only four points out of the last wildcard spot. With decent goal tending this is probably a playoff team. I have mixed feelings about that. Given that they aren't that far away from being good now, if you fixed the goal tending added Lafreniere and Kaprizov they might be genuine contenders next year. It may not be a bad idea to be bad for a year. It is hard to root for that though.

 

[57special]

I know. The 3 V 3 really shows how much we are missing high end talent, though. I would also pump the brakes on Kaprizov being elite in the NHL. The jump from KHL star to NHL star is a big one.

 

[NHL1674]

I know. The 3 V 3 really shows how much we are missing high end talent, though. I would also pump the brakes on Kaprizov being elite in the NHL. The jump from KHL star to NHL star is a big one.

Exactly. Expectations for Kaprizov have to be reasonable. I remember the crazy expectations for Granny when he came over, and although he wasn't a bust, he didn't turn out to be a superstar either. The club has to be careful not to rest all the team's hopes on the kid's shoulders.

 

[TaLoN]

That's rough!

I wonder if these two were spotted on the plane?

 

[Uberdachen]

I know. The 3 V 3 really shows how much we are missing high end talent, though.

We definitely could use some better players holding the bench down during overtime.

 

[DANOZ28]

anyone already listen to this podcast with guest billy Guerin? im at work cant listen ,anything interesting?

 

[Saga of the Elk]

I know. The 3 V 3 really shows how much we are missing high end talent, though. I would also pump the brakes on Kaprizov being elite in the NHL. The jump from KHL star to NHL star is a big one.

Yes and it's so strange to me how - in reverse - guys like Linus Omark, Nigel Dawes, and now Dmitri Jaskin can become KHL stars.

 

[57special]

Yeah...it's like, don't rule out a KHL star from becoming a NHL star, but certainly don't rule them in.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

If Kaprizov comes over and is a flop, which there is a chance happens, that would be absolutely devastating to the future of this team. How bad will this team be in 2 years if Kaprizov isn’t a play driver? Sheesh

Zucker(30)-Staal(37)-Fiala(25)
Parise(37)-some overpaid FA-Zuccar(34)
Greenway(24)-Ek(25)-Kunin(24)
Kaprizov(24)-Boldy(21)-Hartman

Suter(37)-Dumba(27)
Belpedio(26)-Spurgeon(32)
Soucy-Mennel

Kahkonen
Robson
Jones

Fiala and Kaprizov need to develop into good offensive players, and we need to find a long term solution down the middle. If there isn’t a clear vision there, we’re just throwing the same thing at the wall hoping it works.

 

[57special]

What if he isn't a "flop", but merely a guy who scores an average of 22 g, 50 pts./yr? Basically, another Zucker? That's far from a flop, but not the elite 1st liner that Wild fans crave. What if that is also where Boldy ends up?

If so, we can look forward to an average team that makes the playoffs some years, but doesn't go far when they do.

 

[Wild11MN]

anyone already listen to this podcast with guest billy Guerin? im at work cant listen ,anything interesting?

I just listened to that segment. Basically he's going to Russia next week to meet with Kaprizov as already reported. Said he's needed all this time so far to figure everything out basically, from players to staffing etc., especially coming in late in the offseason.

He said he was actually caught off-guard on how close the team is (the individuals). Mentioned the veterans have to lead, play better, and can't be the ones costing the team games. Said he wasn't immediately fleeced on trade proposals at least.

On identity of the team, they have more success when playing a structured game and not trading chances. Wants guys that bring a competitive nature every night.

He also said he likes some advice from Rutherford - don't try to win a trade, try to make a fair deal as guys will be more likely to deal with you in the future.

 

[AKL]

What if he isn't a "flop", but merely a guy who scores an average of 22 g, 50 pts./yr? Basically, another Zucker? That's far from a flop, but not the elite 1st liner that Wild fans crave. What if that is also where Boldy ends up?

If so, we can look forward to an average team that makes the playoffs some years, but doesn't go far when they do.

Is that something to look forward to?

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

What if he isn't a "flop", but merely a guy who scores an average of 22 g, 50 pts./yr? Basically, another Zucker? That's far from a flop, but not the elite 1st liner that Wild fans crave. What if that is also where Boldy ends up?

If so, we can look forward to an average team that makes the playoffs some years, but doesn't go far when they do.

If Kaprizov turns into Zucker, and Boldy turns into a Kunin level player, Colorado is going to do to us what Chicago did in the playoffs for years

 

[Minnesnota]

What if he isn't a "flop", but merely a guy who scores an average of 22 g, 50 pts./yr? Basically, another Zucker? That's far from a flop, but not the elite 1st liner that Wild fans crave. What if that is also where Boldy ends up?

If so, we can look forward to an average team that makes the playoffs some years, but doesn't go far when they do.

If there's any team that deserves their nickname, it's the Minnesota Mild.

I just want hope for a brighter future. You can sell hope.

Can't sell dog shit.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If Kaprizov comes over and is a flop, which there is a chance happens, that would be absolutely devastating to the future of this team. How bad will this team be in 2 years if Kaprizov isn’t a play driver? Sheesh

Zucker(30)-Staal(37)-Fiala(25)
Parise(37)-some overpaid FA-Zuccar(34)
Greenway(24)-Ek(25)-Kunin(24)
Kaprizov(24)-Boldy(21)-Hartman

Suter(37)-Dumba(27)
Belpedio(26)-Spurgeon(32)
Soucy-Mennel

Kahkonen
Robson
Jones

Fiala and Kaprizov need to develop into good offensive players, and we need to find a long term solution down the middle. If there isn’t a clear vision there, we’re just throwing the same thing at the wall hoping it works.

Your top line is way, way off. Beckman-Khovanov-Hentges will be running roughshod over the league in two years.

 

[2Pair]

Now we're complaining about our good prospects?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I mean, yeah, if you want to assume that none of our prospects are or will be any good, then we're probably going to be in a pretty rough spot. That isn't a controversial or groundbreaking opinion.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Now we're complaining about our good prospects?

Not complaining. It just seems that we’ve never had a prospect reach our expectations. That falls a lot on us for overhyping, but if we consider that as probable for Kaprizov/Boldy, things start to look very... mediocre, per usual.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

What if Lafrenierre is RNH and Byfield is Nolan Patrick?

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

I mean, yeah, if you want to assume that none of our prospects are or will be any good, then we're probably going to be in a pretty rough spot. That isn't a controversial or groundbreaking opinion.

It’s not even about all of our prospects, it’s just about Kaprizov. We don’t really know if he is going to pan out. He obviously has the skill, but it’s happened before that Russians can’t translate that to NA. it’s not that I think we’ll be in a rough spot, it think we have decent pieces in place to be a team that competes for the playoffs most years in the future, it’s that I still think we need that elite scorer, and we need very badly for Kaprizov to be that.