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Spurgeon said:
I’m pretty sure I laid out several scenarios back around that time that would’ve worked.
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Tag me in the realistic ones.

I was asking DANO because he is the one screaming about trading Fiala, but he can't seem to come up with an answer for how he would have made it work. Playing the revisionist history game.
 
Spurgeon said:
I’m pretty sure I laid out several scenarios back around that time that would’ve worked.
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There were, they involved trading some other guys, and it's hard to argue Fiala is worth 8 this year, though he might be scoring more with Boldy. But it could have worked if they wanted it to.
 
DigitalBoldy said:
I’m not asking you to provide Guerin’s plan. I’m asking for you to show a path where it was at least possible to keep Fiala at an $8M cap hit. So far, nothing.
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so your telling me our gm who knows all / sees all could not have planned in advance? i forget who was on the roster but trading dumba or hartman or mojo wouldn't have made a difference? c'mon man.
 
DANOZ28 said:
so your telling me our gm who knows all / sees all could not have planned in advance? i forget who was on the roster but trading dumba or hartman or mojo wouldn't have made a difference? c'mon man.
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You should play dodgeball. The amount of times you’ve dodged DB’s question is truly outstanding
 
DigitalBoldy said:
Tag me in the realistic ones.

I was asking DANO because he is the one screaming about trading Fiala, but he can't seem to come up with an answer for how he would have made it work. Playing the revisionist history game.
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I’m too lazy. While I would have liked Fiala on this roster, I’m much happier having Faber + Ohgren. It all worked out in the end.

AKL said:
There were, they involved trading some other guys, and it's hard to argue Fiala is worth 8 this year, though he might be scoring more with Boldy. But it could have worked if they wanted it to.
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Yeah, I’m more than happy with how things worked out although I’d love Fiala on a line with Boldy.

Don’t think there’s too many people that would want to redo how things turned out. Unless we somehow could’ve got Faber as a college UFA.
 
DANOZ28 said:
so your telling me our gm who knows all / sees all could not have planned in advance? i forget who was on the roster but trading dumba or hartman or mojo wouldn't have made a difference? c'mon man.
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Johansson was not on the roster at the same time as Fiala. Hartman was making $1.7M and playing 1C at the time. Trading Dumba doesn't cover the $8M cap hit. This was also a time where everyone was in a cap crunch due to Covid, so trading a $6M cap hit (Dumba) would have likely required taking salary back.
AKL said:
There were, they involved trading some other guys, and it's hard to argue Fiala is worth 8 this year, though he might be scoring more with Boldy. But it could have worked if they wanted it to.
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The issue with those scenarios laid out in the summer of 2022: they do not account for a Boldy extension at all. If he's playing wiith Fiala in 22-23, he might be getting $7M on a bridge and $8-9M on a long term deal. So, while we are playing the alternate* history game, a path that kept Fiala could have likely led to trading Boldy.

* changed to alternate
 
DANOZ28 said:
as i've said before billy would not even let russo know anything which tells me he was keeping everything secret. why? because it would make billy look bad if he told the truth. why can't you understand that?
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The truth is faber and ohgren, none of that makes guerin look bad. We all wanted to keep fiala for obvious reasons but making things up doesn't make the trade better then it already is. Fialas issues at his next stop make it even better, it's a win plus a win plus an oggie!
 
NHL1674 said:
Bring up Jiricek!
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SAINT PAUL, Minn. \- Minnesota Wild President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Bill Guerin today announced the National Hockey League (NHL) club has recalled defenseman David Jiricek (YIHR-ih- chehk) from the Iowa Wild in the American Hockey League (AHL) and reassigned forwards Marat...
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MNRube said:
Why? He’s a black hole offensively, one of the best lowest scoring Fs in the entire league. And it’s not like he’s a true shutdown guy yet, or good on the dot/PK
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When your most common linemate all season has been Devin Shore, I don’t expect much offense to be generated.

Khus has been noticeably better the past 10 games & I just completely disagree with the timing of this move. Throw him on a line with someone that has any semblance of offensive skills.
 
Spurgeon said:
When your most common linemate all season has been Devin Shore, I don’t expect much offense to be generated.

Khus has been noticeably better the past 10 games & I just completely disagree with the timing of this move. Throw him on a line with someone that has any semblance of offensive skills.
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If he was producing at a 25-30 point pace, I may agree. But he’s pacing for like 10-15 points. Not even close to good enough. If anything this should’ve happened earlier.

I agree he’s been better of late, but a stint in Iowa to build confidence offensively isn’t going to hurt his development
 
Wasted Talent said:
I assume it's purely about Khus being waivers exempt and Wild needing the roster spot.
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I believe Shore passed through waivers in the last 30 days, so he could’ve been the one to go down.

MNRube said:
If he was producing at a 25-30 point pace, I may agree. But he’s pacing for like 10-15 points. Not even close to good enough. If anything this should’ve happened earlier.

I agree he’s been better of late, but a stint in Iowa to build confidence offensively isn’t going to hurt his development
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I understand that he might get more of an opportunity to build some offense in an elevated role in the AHL, but Iowa is a mess.

Ohgren I agreed with sending down, but Khus has shown enough recently to get a chance to play up the lineup. Especially when we’ll be playing Gaunce and Shore tomorrow. Those two guys don’t deserve NHL ice time any more than Khus imo.
 
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Spurgeon said:
I understand that he might get more of an opportunity to build some offense in an elevated role in the AHL, but Iowa is a mess.

Ohgren I agreed with sending down, but Khus has shown enough recently to get a chance to play up the lineup. Especially when we’ll be playing Gaunce and Shore tomorrow. Those two guys don’t deserve NHL ice time any more than Khus imo.
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What exactly has he shown?
 
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