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Minnesota Wild General Discussion 2024-25

Sota Popinski said:

Pretty interesting seeing where each player is compared to the other players in the division and just how great Kaprizov has been this year. At the top the league offensively and defensively and only McDavid, Draisaitl and Kucherov playing at his level.
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Wild players with positive Net Ratings (current):

Kaprizov +27
Rossi +13
Boldy +11
Middleton +9
JEE +8
Faber +8
Brodin +8
Zuccarello +7
Spurgeon +7
Foligno +5

All other players are in the negative ratings. Hartman and Johansson are the best of those at -1, followed by Trenin and Chisholm at -2.


Nothing too surprising there, except maybe that Foligno is quietly having a pretty strong year, and Trenin gets shat on more than he should. He's rated well enough to play our third line rather than fourth, and while I don't think a player can be summed up completely accurately with a single number, there is likely some truth to it (unless we think Kaprizov hasn't been far and away the best skater on the team, followed distantly by Rossi and Boldy).
Also, Lauko and Khusnutdinov are rated fairly significantly below Jon Merrill. Huh.
 
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BagHead said:
Wild players with positive Net Ratings (current):

Kaprizov +27
Rossi +13
Boldy +11
Middleton +9
JEE +8
Faber +8
Brodin +8
Zuccarello +7
Spurgeon +7
Foligno +5

All other players are in the negative ratings. Hartman and Johansson are the best of those at -1, followed by Trenin and Chisholm at -2.


Nothing too surprising there, except maybe that Foligno is quietly having a pretty strong year, and Trenin gets shat on more than he should. He's rated well enough to play our third line rather than fourth, and while I don't think a player can be summed up completely accurately with a single number, there is likely some truth to it (unless we think Kaprizov hasn't been far and away the best skater on the team, followed distantly by Rossi and Boldy).
Also, Lauko and Khusnutdinov are rated fairly significantly below Jon Merrill. Huh.
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Forwards are expected to produce some offense and Lauko and Marat have been awful at it. The eye test tells us Merrill is terrible but unless we are getting lit up when he's on the ice, it makes sense to me that his "value" is higher than two forwards who only show up on the score sheet every 8 or 9 games.
 
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kfan22 said:
well Russo just confirmed on KFAN it was Kaprizov and agent were the ones who decided on Surgery. Russo also said in his opinion he thinks this will make it easier to sign Kaprizov because he will think Kaprizov will take the money Wild offer so he doesnt have to worry about injury costing him money in future.
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Me reading this after reading Webster’s comments the situation:

 
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BagHead said:
Nothing too surprising there, except maybe that Foligno is quietly having a pretty strong year, and Trenin gets shat on more than he should.
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Foligno is really a premier defensive wing - the advanced stats have supported that assessment for years. He doesn’t offer much offense at all, but his defense and physicality make him a useful player. I’ve always agreed with Guerin in that if we moved him, we’d be looking to acquire another version of him right away.

Chisholm - bit overrated around here. I have no issues with him walking. He’s a decent third pair guy, but not worthy of blocking Jiricek or Buium next fall. I think those two plus Bogo should make for a solid 3rd pair. Plus Spacek & Lambos are decent insurance.
 
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Sota Popinski said:
Forwards are expected to produce some offense and Lauko and Marat have been awful at it. The eye test tells us Merrill is terrible but unless we are getting lit up when he's on the ice, it makes sense to me that his "value" is higher than two forwards who only show up on the score sheet every 8 or 9 games.
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I still think that there might be some offensive potential in Marat. He's been used on the 3rd or 4th line, playing with AHL talent on a forechecking/energy role. I want to see him with some more talented linemates before I write his offensive potential off.

With Kap & MaJo out, I hope he gets a taste on the second line in any game in future. I don't think he's far away from MaJo from what it's worth. I really like Marats wheels and he has fullfilled the role he's gotten on the team imo.
 
Spurgeon said:
That roster still has $5.5-$6.5M in cap space with even just a $93M salary cap. If the salary cap is $96M, I feel like they have to take advantage of that situation. Our team is structured in a way where I think we can comfortably fit another expensive long-term UFA without it impacting our ability to re-sign anyone. I’m not saying they should just sign someone because they can, but they should take advantage of their free cap space while they’re competitive.

These are the contracts that expire following the listed seasons:

25-26: Kap, Zucc, Bogosian, Gus, Jiricek

26-27: Spurgeon, Hartman, Ohgren, Yurov, Wallstedt, Buium (?)

27-28: Brodin, Foligno, Trenin, Gaudreau, Buium (?)
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Bumping this post now that we have the cap projections for the next 3 years.

We should have a minimum of $8M this upcoming offseason even if we give Rossi an $8M long-term deal.
 
Spurgeon said:
Bumping this post now that we have the cap projections for the next 3 years.

We should have a minimum of $8M this upcoming offseason even if we give Rossi an $8M long-term deal.
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I think it's $16.5M in space if they want to stay ~$1M under the cap, which is handy for an injury callup. Rossi, Khusnutdinov and another forward to account for. Defense and goalies should all be accounted for with Jiricek in the fold.

Personally, I'd think pretty hard about doing 3 years for Rossi to get Boeser on board. If they're set on Nelson, then LT for Rossi should be very doable.
 
Dr Jan Itor said:
I think it's $16.5M in space if they want to stay ~$1M under the cap, which is handy for an injury callup. Rossi, Khusnutdinov and another forward to account for. Defense and goalies should all be accounted for with Jiricek in the fold.

Personally, I'd think pretty hard about doing 3 years for Rossi to get Boeser on board. If they're set on Nelson, then LT for Rossi should be very doable.
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Is this lineup possible cap wise?
Kap-rossi-zuc
Boeser-ek-boldy
Yurov-nelson-ohgren
Foligno-hartman-trenin
Lauko,freddy
Maybe trade hartman or freddy to help this lineup fit

Buium-faber
Brodin-jiracek
Middleton-Spurgeon
Bogo
 
NHL1674 said:
Am I the only one here who doesn't want Nelson?
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I'm of two minds. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in another top six forward because our cup don't exactly runneth over in that regard, but I also don't want to sign a long term, high AAV guy like Boeser because I want to have space to bring in all the prospects and extend them if necessary. I also don't really care bout Nelson, and I'm not a fan of signing another 34 year old to ride out his sunset years here, but in theory he would at least be a shorter term and lower AAV than Boeser.

What I'd really prefer is to find a deal like Dallas did with Matt Duchene. Yes he's 33/34, but it was a one year deal and he's absolutely killing it. Toronto did that with Tyler Bertuzzi a couple years ago and that didn't go as well. But find a veteran who's scored previously who's looking to prove himself on a 1-2 year deal. Not sure who that would be this summer. Not a lot of great names out there from what I can tell.
 
Dr Jan Itor said:
I think it's $16.5M in space if they want to stay ~$1M under the cap, which is handy for an injury callup. Rossi, Khusnutdinov and another forward to account for. Defense and goalies should all be accounted for with Jiricek in the fold.

Personally, I'd think pretty hard about doing 3 years for Rossi to get Boeser on board. If they're set on Nelson, then LT for Rossi should be very doable.
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Anyone with speed available instead of Nelson/Boeser? Someone like Ehlers would be a better fit IMO
 
Kaprizov(9) - Rossi(RFA) - Zuccarello(4.125)
Öhgren(.886) - Ek(5.25) - Boldy(7)
Foligno(4) - Yurov(RFA) - Hartman(4)
Trenin(3.5) - Marat(RFA) - Gaudreau(2.1)
Lauko(RFA)

Middleton(4.35) - Faber(8.5)
Brodin(6) - Spurgeon(7.575)
Chisholm(RFA) - Jiricek(.918)
Bogosian(1.25)

Gustavsson(3.75)
Wallstedt(2.2)

Dead cap(1.666)

Let's call that 76M out of 95.5M. I'm gonna leave 1M in space for a callup.

That's 18.5M to sign:
Rossi
Yurov
Marat
Lauko
Chisholm

I'm keeping Buium in the AHL, but honestly we could trade Chisholm and swap him with Buium too.

Contract projections:
Rossi 8M
Yurov 0.925M
Marat 1.25M
Lauko 1M
Chisholm 2M

5.325M left over for a UFA, plus you'd probably move another forward somewhere, which could give you anywhere from an extra 1M to 4M to add the UFA forward.

Still, not much interest in signing old UFAs.
 
That said, here is a list of the UFAs I could be okay with signing depending on cost/term:
  • Rantanen - screw it, let's trade Zuccarello and Trenin and give all our money to him
  • Duchene - just turned 34 this month, on a 1 year deal now, I'd want 1-2 years, he probably wants 3-4
  • Ehlers - can't afford him unless we trade one of the 4M guys (Trenin, Foligno, Hartman, Zuccarello)
  • Granlund - he's only 32 so he'll probably want a 4-5 year deal, having a resurgent season, probably too much to give him, would still have to trade a 4M guy
  • Marchand - this might be unpopular but I'm a big fan, plays with edge obviously but skilled enough to be a top six player, would actually fit so nice with Ek and Boldy, 36 so probably not looking for much term, would depend on AAV, the more I think about it the more I'm convincing myself this is the way to go, probably have to trade someone
  • Giroux - doubt he'd ever come here, and 37 so term would be 1 year, this is mostly just because he's one of my favorite players of the last 20 years, might have to trade someone
  • Nelson - only on a short term, low AAV deal, wouldn't offer him a cent over $4,999,999 on a 2 year deal
  • P. Kane - see Giroux
  • Hall - think he could still be good in our top six, has speed, wouldn't be too expensive or seek too much term, would be the pick if you want to gamble on someone rebounding, low risk high reward

These are the other UFAs that I wouldn't really want:
  • Marner
  • Boeser
  • Tavares
  • Zucker
  • Palmieri
  • Bennett
  • Benn
  • Donato
  • Roslovic
  • Dadonov
  • R. Smith
  • Namestnikov
  • P. Suter
  • van Riemsdyk
 
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