Minnesota Wild General Discussion 2024-25

[AKL]

I don't know what the best linemate site is anymore since NaturalStatTrick is now a pay site, so I can't really check the Nashville and LA time.

I use Frozen Tools, which seems accurate enough, but it's no NST

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Would love to have Fiala back again as I think he’s still got a lot of good years ahead of him. having 3 players that can drive lines on their own would be nice. Kaprizov-Rossi, Boldy-Ek, Fiala-Yurov would seem to suffice as 3 scoring lines. Foligno-anyone-Trenin would be a legitimate 4th line. Problem is I can’t make the math work.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Would love to have Fiala back again as I think he’s still got a lot of good years ahead of him. having 3 players that can drive lines on their own would be nice. Kaprizov-Rossi, Boldy-Ek, Fiala-Yurov would seem to suffice as 3 scoring lines. Foligno-anyone-Trenin would be a legitimate 4th line. Problem is I can’t make the math work.

If it was done this summer:

Kaprizov (9) - Yurov (.925) - Zuccarello (4.125)
Boldy (7) - Rossi (?) - Fiala (7.875)
Ohgren (.887) - Eriksson Ek (5.25) - Hartman (4)
Foligno (4) - Khusnuts (?) - Trenin (3.5)
Gaudreau (2.1)
Parise (.833)

Brodin (6) - Faber (8.5)
Middleton (4.35) - Spurgeon (7.575)
Buium (.925) - Bogosian (1.25)
Whoever (.9)
Suter (.833)

Gustavsson (3.75)
Wallstedt (2)

Total ~$84.8M
Cap ~$92.5M
Space ~$7.8M

Problem is, Guerin probably doesn't want him back and Fiala probably doesn't want to come back (and he has a full NMC through next year).

He's priced pretty much perfectly to be a 2nd line driver behind a 1st line star.

 

[Waiver Draft]

Minnesota Wild Recalls Defenseman Daemon Hunt From Iowa | Minnesota Wild

SAINT PAUL, Minn. – Minnesota Wild President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Bill Guerin today announced the National Hockey League (NHL) club has recalled defenseman Daemon Hunt from the Iowa Wild of the American Hockey League (AHL).

www.nhl.com

 

[MNRube]

I’d much rather go after Rasmus Andersson than Fiala.

Brodin-Andersson
Buium-Faber
Middleton-Spurgeon

Best blueline in the league with a bunch of prospects on the way to fill out the Top 9 up front.

Fiala got us Faber. Be grateful for that, and let go. He’s not coming back. He and Guerin both have massive egos and neither will allow it to happen

 

[57special]

I'd take Fiala, but it all depends on the cost. Ohgren, a cap dump(or two)to make the deal work, and a first(lottery protected) I'd do. The way that BG has handed out NMC's and NTC's he has severely limited the ability of this team to make such a move, at least till the summer when the cap penalties are mostly gone.

Fiala seems to get criticized for his flaws, as if other high end offensive players(i.e. Kane, Panarin) don't do the exact same things. They also seem to want to ignore his strengths, which are hard to find. His speed and skill paired are extraordinary. He isn't at the top of the "skill mountain" that Kucherov, Kap, and a few others live on, but he is close, and also isn't paid like it. He is locked up at under 8M long term, while Kap is expected to get 13M or so on his next contract. In a cap league, that really matters.

It's all fantasy at this point. BG doesn't want him back, and Blake wouldn't trade him back to us, opening himself up to further criticism.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

If it was done this summer:

Kaprizov (9) - Yurov (.925) - Zuccarello (4.125)
Boldy (7) - Rossi (?) - Fiala (7.875)
Ohgren (.887) - Eriksson Ek (5.25) - Hartman (4)
Foligno (4) - Khusnuts (?) - Trenin (3.5)
Gaudreau (2.1)
Parise (.833)

Brodin (6) - Faber (8.5)
Middleton (4.35) - Spurgeon (7.575)
Buium (.925) - Bogosian (1.25)
Whoever (.9)
Suter (.833)

Gustavsson (3.75)
Wallstedt (2)

Total ~$84.8M
Cap ~$92.5M
Space ~$7.8M

Problem is, Guerin probably doesn't want him back and Fiala probably doesn't want to come back (and he has a full NMC through next year).

He's priced pretty much perfectly to be a 2nd line driver behind a 1st line star.

Next year isn’t the problem, it’s more when we make Kaprizov the highest paid player in NHL history that’s going to get us

 

[MNRube]

Next year isn’t the problem, it’s more when we make Kaprizov the highest paid player in NHL history that’s going to get us

We have Faber, JEE, Brodin & Boldy locked up at a combined ~$28M. We will be fine if Guerin doesn’t offer any (more) absurd extensions to veteran role-players

 

[AKL]

Next year isn’t the problem, it’s more when we make Kaprizov the highest paid player in NHL history that’s going to get us

Rumor on the street is cap should go up quite a bit in the next few years so I think it could work, especially if you could dump a player like Trenin or Middleton.

Of course this is all a for-fun hypothetical because Guerin would never bring Fiala back and I can't imagine Fiala would fancy a reunion with Guerin either.

 

[57special]

Rumor on the street is cap should go up quite a bit in the next few years so I think it could work, especially if you could dump a player like Trenin or Middleton.

Of course this is all a for-fun hypothetical because Guerin would never bring Fiala back and I can't imagine Fiala would fancy a reunion with Guerin either.

Agreed, but I think that Fifi would be thrilled to be playing with Boldy again, or Boldy and JEE.

 

[Sweetnut]

Can't get over the fact that Trenin makes 4 million this year. Last season he was paid 1.7 and Billy G raised it to 4 M.
(His cap hit is 3.5)

 

[Soldier13Fox]

Can't get over the fact that Trenin makes 4 million this year. Last season he was paid 1.7 and Billy G raised it to 4 M.
(His cap hit is 3.5)

Agreed... big time thumbs down to Trenin signing. Hopefully there's more to come with him as the season progresses. Not seeing much of anything at the moment.

 

[MNRube]

Agreed... big time thumbs down to Trenin signing. Hopefully there's more to come with him as the season progresses. Not seeing much of anything at the moment.

He is overpaid but was much needed. He and healthy Foligno add toughness and physicality while Lauko & Marat bring speed. Light years ahead of the Lucchini, Letteiri types we used last year in the bottom 6

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Next year isn’t the problem, it’s more when we make Kaprizov the highest paid player in NHL history that’s going to get us

I've always just looked at it like Kaprizov is going to take Zuccarello's money, and then Zucc will be "replaced" by ELCs.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I've always just looked at it like Kaprizov is going to take Zuccarello's money, and then Zucc will be "replaced" by ELCs.

Same here. The big question mark is how much Rossi will get on an extension, if Guerin even extends him...

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Same here. The big question mark is how much Rossi will get on an extension, if Guerin even extends him...

50+ points this year (and good all-around play) is probably looking at $6.5M to $7.5M I'd think. Byfield just signed for $6.25M per year after a 55 point season, Jarvis got $7.4M after a 30+ goal, 60+ point season, Lafreniere still to come.

That's all longer term though. I wouldn't be opposed to a bridge in Rossi's case, to keep it down until after Spurgeon expires, Kaprizov is figured out, and we get a couple years look at Buium, Yurov and Wallstedt in the NHL.

Edit: 2-3 years x ~$5M sounds good to me.

 

[AKL]

2-3 years x ~$4M sounds good to me.

Feels low if he has a 50 point season with good all around play

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Feels low if he has a 50 point season with good all around play

Probably is, I thought Byfield was longer term than 5 years.

Probably closer to $5M per year then.

 

[Digitalbooya]

50+ points this year (and good all-around play) is probably looking at $6.5M to $7.5M I'd think. Byfield just signed for $6.25M per year after a 55 point season, Jarvis got $7.4M after a 30+ goal, 60+ point season, Lafreniere still to come.

That's all longer term though. I wouldn't be opposed to a bridge in Rossi's case, to keep it down until after Spurgeon expires, Kaprizov is figured out, and we get a couple years look at Buium, Yurov and Wallstedt in the NHL.

Edit: 2-3 years x ~$5M sounds good to me.

If he is next to Kaprizov all year, 50 points would be really bad. I'm expecting 65+ points unless he is dropped in the lineup.

2 x $5-6M might work for a bridge in that case. I'm not sure there is a valid argument that Rossi can make to be worth more than Boldy.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If he is next to Kaprizov all year, 50 points would be really bad. I'm expecting 65+ points unless he is dropped in the lineup.

2 x $5-6M might work for a bridge in that case. I'm not sure there is a valid argument that Rossi can make to be worth more than Boldy.

I'm not counting on anybody being next to anybody all year, except Kap and Zucc.

Remember, he isn't on the #1 PP unit when we're fully healthy, and we haven't been great at even strength scoring the last couple of years. Kaprizov himself only had 55 ES points last year.

So, ~45 ES points and maybe ~10 PP points is what I'm targeting unless something major changes (they put him on the #1 PP or they swap Boldy and Zuccarello).