Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2023-24

[BagHead]

A agree with you about Hartman.

Kap-JEE-Heidt (boom or bust for Heidt in his 9 games)
Boldy-Hartman-Zucc
Foligno-Rossi-Ohgren
MarJo-Freddy G-(Facepuncher GMBG picks up off the scrap heap)

I really like Foligno with Rossi, as long as he's healthy. He plays a heavy forecheck game that adds an element Rossi needs on his line. I think it's a really nice mix of styles — Foligno (forechecking, corner work, net crashing), Rossi (possession, playmaking), and Ohgren (sniper, forechecking). I would not be surprised to see that line be our 2nd best.

I like your lines for the first handful of games. Adjust from there.

 

[keppel146]

Hypothetically, if Jeff Skinner were to be bought out this summer, would anyone be interested in signing him, and if so, what would be the max amount of term and dollars you'd give?

$1 Bob; but I’d give him 2.5 million as my max budget. Otherwise I don’t want him that bad.

 

[57special]

I'd be very surprised if Heidt gets more than 9 games in the NHL this year. I don't think that he is strong and fast enough for the NHL right now. Hoping that one of Milne or Bankier has a very good summer of training and earns a spot in camp, or gets called up and sticks during the season.

Will Rossi continue to improve, stay the same as last year, or regress/sophomore slump?

Marat was ok as a bottom sixer, at best. Ohgren barely played. I liked him.
Both need to show some offense. Maybe going through the preseason with the team will allow them to mesh with the team better.

 

[Wabit]

I really like Foligno with Rossi, as long as he's healthy. He plays a heavy forecheck game that adds an element Rossi needs on his line. I think it's a really nice mix of styles — Foligno (forechecking, corner work, net crashing), Rossi (possession, playmaking), and Ohgren (sniper, forechecking). I would not be surprised to see that line be our 2nd best.

I like your lines for the first handful of games. Adjust from there.

The issue is with Kap starting the season slow. Lines get adjusted for that when it seems to be a individual thing with Kap and not a linemate issue.

I'd be very surprised if Heidt gets more than 9 games in the NHL this year. I don't think that he is strong and fast enough for the NHL right now. Hoping that one of Milne or Bankier has a very good summer of training and earns a spot in camp, or gets called up and sticks during the season.

Will Rossi continue to improve, stay the same as last year, or regress/sophomore slump?

Marat was ok as a bottom sixer, at best. Ohgren barely played. I liked him.
Both need to show some offense. Maybe going through the preseason with the team will allow them to mesh with the team better.

I'm not counting on Heidt for long either. I'm just trying to make a lineup that doesn't have either a very small line or a very inexperienced line. Ohgren and Marat K probably should be in the AHL, but with the roster construction/cap MN currently has it puts them in the NHL lineup. If the team still had a Nino/Haula/Pommer quality 3rd line then none of these kids would even be considered for the opening night roster.

I'm sure these roster projections/lineups will change after free agency.

 

[Wabit]

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

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Dang. End of an era. That 2019-20 season sure was fun to follow.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Not surprising to see Beckman go, just not enough there to be a contributor. Game is just too fast for him at the NHL level and the shot never materialized into a threat.

 

[NHL1674]

It's happening!!!!! Big trade!!!!!

 

[Webster]

The issue is with Kap starting the season slow. Lines get adjusted for that when it seems to be a individual thing with Kap and not a linemate issue.

Expect his nurse, I mean Zucc, to start the season with him on the top line.

Who's this Clarke guy, the new 2nd line forward?

 

[BagHead]

Dang. End of an era. That 2019-20 season sure was fun to follow.

That season really (re)taught me not to put too much credence into CHL numbers. Beckman and Khovanov. Damnit guys.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

That season really (re)taught me not to put too much credence into CHL numbers. Beckman and Khovanov. Damnit guys.

Cautious optimism is just always the way to go.

 

[keppel146]

Interesting

 

[Jbcraig1883]

Not surprised about the Beckman trade as I stated I expected that to happen near the end of the season. Figured would be a trade for a player of similar potential/age to switch up the scenery for both. Hope it works out for both of them.

 

[Jbcraig1883]

I'd be very surprised if Heidt gets more than 9 games in the NHL this year. I don't think that he is strong and fast enough for the NHL right now. Hoping that one of Milne or Bankier has a very good summer of training and earns a spot in camp, or gets called up and sticks during the season.

Will Rossi continue to improve, stay the same as last year, or regress/sophomore slump?

Marat was ok as a bottom sixer, at best. Ohgren barely played. I liked him.
Both need to show some offense. Maybe going through the preseason with the team will allow them to mesh with the team better.

Love those two. I do think that, even if they have great offseasons, they will start in Iowa, just because Bankier was a rookie last year, only played around 50 games, and Milne had only played half a season. It would not surprise me if one of them ended up sticking after being called up though. I think Milne has the advantage to stick simply due to his motor/pk/bottom 6 potential.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Separate from this trade, saw an article today on offer sheet candidates. I don’t think we are quite in position for one this season but Byfield and Mittelstadt are big targets. Prying Mittelstadt away from Colorado would be a coup while they are trying to deal with the losses of Landeskog and Nichushkin and still compete. Gives me warm tinglys and I hope someone does it.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I wanted Mittelstadt while he was still in Buffalo, but I hate giving up unprotected 1sts nowadays.

 

[57special]

Was never too impressed with Beckman, even though he had a shot, length, and could skate reasonably well. Seems one year too early to get rid of him, but he certainly needed more strength if he was going to be a bottom sixer. I always liked Walker better, but he also was older and had more time to develop. He is another one who either needs to gain more strength, or get on the scoreboard during his callups.

Graeme Clarke?

 

[MuckOG]

Graeme Clarke?

Born in Waconia. He's one of us!

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Was never too impressed with Beckman, even though he had a shot, length, and could skate reasonably well. Seems one year too early to get rid of him, but he certainly needed more strength if he was going to be a bottom sixer. I always liked Walker better, but he also was older and had more time to develop. He is another one who either needs to gain more strength, or get on the scoreboard during his callups.

Graeme Clarke?

Agree with your assessment but I think his most recent NHL showing was pretty clear in that there is still a very significant amount of work to be done before he is a net positive player and his processing speed just wasn’t good enough, that doesn’t tend to improve dramatically at this point in development. Beckman works hard and has a good attitude so I expect he makes a career, but I don’t think he would have ever left the 4th line here.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Born in Waconia. He's one of us!

Also is the older brother of Brandt Clarke, the LA Kings d man picked 8th in 2021.

Maybe Guerin can convince LA to trade us another one of those RHD they refuse to play…

 

[57special]

Also is the older brother of Brandt Clarke, the LA Kings d man picked 8th in 2021.

Maybe Guerin can convince LA to trade us another one of those RHD they refuse to play…

That's my angle. Even though he never lived there, maybe Brandt is pining for the shores of Lake Waconia, and is choking on the smog in LA?

 

[AKL]

I would be pretty interested in the story of how he ended up being born in Waconia of all places

Also played with Rossi in Ottawa so that's neat

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Born in Waconia. He's one of us!

Great lake.

 

[AKL]

Great lake.

No those are further north

 

[Minnewildsota]

Was never too impressed with Beckman, even though he had a shot, length, and could skate reasonably well. Seems one year too early to get rid of him, but he certainly needed more strength if he was going to be a bottom sixer. I always liked Walker better, but he also was older and had more time to develop. He is another one who either needs to gain more strength, or get on the scoreboard during his callups.

Graeme Clarke?

And if we waited and his value went down people would be complaining that we got rid of him too late.